Fire extinguishers

KEV

i bought 1 of those $20 jobs from super cheap.
u use them once & throw them away
it has some thing like a couple of hundred KPA in them
tucks into a duel cab just nicely

Hi Kev

We keep 1 in the Van near the Stove and 1 in the 4b in the rear,
*Powder Type,
*Just the Normal Vehicle Size,

Question, are you going to do a bit of Arson at the next Gathering
lol..lol.


Cheers
Daza

Kev

Some time back I saw a 4b with a section of 100mm P V C Sewer
Pipe mounted on the Chassis which was Pressureized with a Quick
Action Ball Valve Tap and Bayonet Hose Connection, he used it
for sme thing similar.


Cheers
Daza

Kev,

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One on the drivers side and one on the passenger side next to the front seats.

I have seen fire extinguishers mounted on the cargo barrier. It does show that there is a fire extinguisher on board.
Mounted on the cargo barrier it would mean that a driver would have to exit the vehicle, move around and open the back of the vehicle, reach through to the cargo barrier and unclip the extinguisher.
If the back of the vehicle is pack for camping forget about getting the extinguisher out before the fire takes hold.

Most fires in a vehicle start under the dash or under the bonnet and the sooner the flame is extinguished the better.

Having a extinguisher or two close to the driver has to be better than one in the back of the vehicle.

Wayne

This theory has been sworn by, by a lot of old time bushies.

Keep a few warm cans handy. Open the ring pull just a "smidge", slam the base of the can on the ground and aim the froth at the fire. Warmies froth much better than coldies.

Can't vouch for it personally, but it does seem feasible.

Jim.

I carry a 1kg extinguisher in from of the drivers seat, and a second on mounted inside the tray, but would prefer a couple more or larger ones but room doesn't permit. The 1kg extinguishers last about 10 secs, but a 2kg will last something like 30 secs, so my advice would be to fit the largest one your vehicle will accomodate.

The most versatile and practical is normally a dry chemical as others have said.
There are different types of powders that have different ratings marked on the body.
All dry chem extinguishers will have a B(E) rating with a number before it - eg 10B(E). The B means that it is suitable for B class fires - flamable liquids. The (E) means that it is suitable for fires involving electricity. This will be the limit for the cheap extiguishers.
An A rating - eg 1A10B(E) - means that it is also sutable for fires involving ordinary combustibles - wood, paper, clothing, plastics, etc. Anything with an A rating will cost more but it is worthwhile.
The numbers - the bigger the better.
I would not buy anything under a 1A10B(E).

In any dry chem extinguisher the powder will settle and cake, particularly in vehicles, making it useless when needed if it is not maintained. Standards have them serviced annually and inspected six monthly. Regardless of the service interval, get it out regularly and give it a thump with a rubber mallet or similar to keep the powder loose. check the pressure gauge while you are at it.

I have one mounted under my knees, in front of the drivers seat - out of the way but close in the event of an accident that I might be trapped in.

We have a 2.5kg dry powder mounted behind the passenger seat in the Troopy.

We only carry a .9kg in the Rangie and it is hard to get at - must do something about it one day when I get around to it - bigger and more accessabile

In NZ, you HAVE to have a serviced in, last 12 months dry powder of min 2kg before you can do a club trip with most clubs.

Stevesub

Hey Sir Kev,

Size?? ......... 1kg

Type?? ........ Dry powder as the most effective BCF type is no longer available. Quell brand as I am not completely confident with powder types and at least that is a respected brand. Just bought a new one ... was on special at Bunnings - $28

Locations?? ... Made a bkt and fitted low and in front of pass seat. Moves with seat.

Quantity?? .... Just the one untill new rear storage system is finalised and a place allocated for a second.

Hi Kev,
I have 2 set up on the back of the ute also 2 water bottles to put any spinifex fires out if I have one. Fire extingushers don't like being used on there sides or upside down.

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Peter

If you look around you may find that some extinguishers have two quick release bands holding it onto it's cradle. Or, you can make and use a Velcro strap for additional security. A lot of us have a cargo barrier and then put a 1 kg missile in a rather fragile mount somewhere in the main cabin.

I always remove my extinguisher and give it a good shake at every oil change.

In NZ several of the forest owners require all vehicles to have 2kg (or 2 x 1kg) extinguishers or no access permit.

I carry 2

One at the rear in one of the side pockets and one on the other side of the barrier strapped to the top for easy access

G`day Kev,

Mate take a bit of advice from an old Firey (spell) from way back.
Dry Chemical is the way to go, I have 8 of them.
Don`t buy a cheapy. Suggest, Chubb, Quell, Wormald etc...
Buy one with a metal head (top) not plastic, the plastic headed ones lose pressure quicker than the metal ones.
I have 6 of the 1 kg size three of which have plastic heads , they are the only ones that I ever have to get recharged. I also have a 2.5 kg that goes on any trip I do as an extra and a large 9 kg that hangs around the shed.

If you want a cheap but effective bracket for the 1 kg size get a piece of PVC pipe 75mm inside diameter and the length of the extinguisher body. On its end measure and mark 75 mm around the diameter then draw these marks along the length,it should be about a third of the circumference, cut it lengthwise along the lines and dress the edges.
You can push the extinguisher through the gap into the pipe, tekscrew or bolt it where you want it , horizontal is easy, vertical will require a stop of some kind for the extinguisher to sit on.

Geeez it`s hard to explain these things on here.

I will see you at the gathering next week.

I will try and send you a MM shortly.

Scrubby.

Where do I start?

1. Those cheap aerosols are a waste of money.
2. 1kg's aren't much better. Minimun size should be a 2kg fitted with a hose.
3. Must be powder type either BE or ABE (ABE's should be the same price as BE's).
4. Make sure it's Australian Standards approved, brand doesn't matter so long as it's approved.
5. Mount where easily accesable while still in drivers seat with seat belt on.
6. QTY's, at least one per vehicle, 2 for remote areas and 1 for camper / caravan.

Hi Kev,

We have a 2kg extinguisher with the hose... it sits under the passengers seat and is reasonably accessible. Sitting next to it is a rather large pair of bolt cutters..... they're there to be used to chop through battery cables in a hurry if there's an electrical fire in the truck. We carry spare fuses and things in the drawer at the back, also some cable connectors if the cutters have to be used.

Cheers

Brian

I have a 2.5kg job attached to the front of the drivers seat under my legs. Had to use a 1kg job once and found it ineffective on a fire that was well alight.

Saw a 2.5kg job work quite effectively on a gas bottle leak that had set a few things on fire. This was after the gas had been turned off though.