Would you buy it ???

Whg I would think the auto would go before the motor. What does it drive like?. Your other problem is selling your currant vehicle, currant situation one buyer for every ten for sale. Even the tds are coming down in price. But those 80s are good off road and are holding their value

One member on her has a Troopy he bought second hand and has around 700,000 Km's on the clock now and still going strong.
Similar vintage and motor so I would think if its looked after 500 plus would not be unreasonable??

No, I wouldnt buy it. Too many bucks for even another 100k of
use. If it dies you are up for another $5 to $7k for a rebuild or
transplant. With a blown donk it would be virtually worthless.
Your choice, of course, but you asked the question. I havent
checked book values, no doubt you will ,if serious about it.
cheers...oldbaz.

Mates just bought that very one 93 model in same condition with 200 K's on the clock for 18 grand, I think its a lot of money for a car that old but its a lot of car too , no they dont make them like that anymore, but yes it would be a lot to fix if you needed it done, very hard to answer,
regards,
Dave

WHG,

With 340k on the clock if the motor was going to go it would have done so by now.

With the auto box the vehicle is very strong and providing that all the bells and whistles are working it should be a good buy.

$17k would be top dollar, I would go in with a lower offer and see what happens.

Wayne

Wherehegon,

With full service history etc there shouldnt be any reason that the motor doesnt have a fair bit of life in it yet.
I would suggest getting it checked out by an authorized mechanic
in particular the auto to ensure no problems there however in my experience these motors are good for 500 plus km.

Cheers

Its a toss up. It may look and sound good now but the engine could lose compression anytime.
Only buy it if you can handle a rebuild in the next couple of years.

I would recommend a compression check.

Have considered a low klm model with a 1HZ that could have a turbo added.
They can last a long time if you understand how to drive them

G'day Wherehegon

I actually own a 80 Series 1htd intercooled 1992 Sahara wagon.

All factory everything plus two tons of personal add-ons.

They are quite a nice vehicle even by today's standards, my particular wagon has covered 310,000 kms.

It's original owner,( a friend of mine) had dramas with the engine in it's early days at around 35000ks, sadly it was a major rebuild but at Toyota's warranty expense, apparently there was a problem with the early engine build crankshaft thrust bearings, I'm not 100% sure on this though. I suspect there was more to the initial failure.

I had a brand new 1htd (crate) motor fitted back in February 2007 the motor came directly from Toyota's warehouse in WA.

The reason for fitting the new motor was a persistent high engine running temperature with the original, even after checking and replacing what I thought was suspect, the problem turned out to be a hair line crack in the bore of #5 cylinder and this one particular piston had non standard size piston rings fitted.


The transmission and other running gear is untouched.

I tow an off road trailer, when needed, I also tow a fairly weighty Coromal Off road (sic) caravan when getting away from home.

I've replaced all wheel bearings seals etc..., just this August, some may call this running gear, but I am not going to split hairs.

I've replaced all brake components, only because I wanted a personal start point for my own records.

My cruiser is used daily and mostly off road, and serious 4wding often, so it's service life is genuinely as Toyota designed it for.

In a nutshell, they are top a touring vehicle, when personalized and once you have confidence in it.

I would without hesitation buy another 80 Series Sahara if I could afford one.


Regards : Joe

Wherehegon,
I wouldn't have a problem forking out $17000 for it. 340k on it is about right for that model. If it's got log books at lest you'll know it's service history. After owning mine now for over four years I'm happy to say I would buy another if I had to.
Another way to look at it is, What else can you get for $17k and give the same value for money? They're a good solid truck.
The Red Book's Private Price Guide $13,100 - $15,900 is fair enough.
I've found their price to be a bit below what they actually sell for. They do command a higher price than most other 4WD's for their age.
Like I said, I'd be happy paying that for one.

Wherehegon,
Some of the recalls had stickers attached.
Just in side the drives door there should some complance stickers. They will have code and dates,
Eg;
16M103 Is the Tow Bar Tongue Recall
250081 Is the Steering joint cover Recall
56M181 Telstra Roof rack system
66M07 Tow bar Pin Recall
6527H Vacuum Pump Recall

This is what Mine has had done.
1; 06 07 92
250081

2; 14 02 97
08089
65227H

Not all models had the same recalls.
Toyota should be able to help with the the codes.

Wherehegon,
TONI would still stomp on it and then have breakfast, LOL,

I feel you are doing the right thing, by getting mechanics to check it out.

The 1hz is non turbo if I'm right so giving the car notice of intent is needed. However the non turbo engine should be a tad more reliable.

Good luck in whatever you decide mate, and if you do the deed then you just gotta come out and play with us.
Colin.

WHG

I owned an non turbo 80 series for 16 years from new. I don't think it is the motor you should be too concerned about at that age (as demonstrated above with many high km strong motors still going out there). It is everything else that makes it a vehicle and in your example it 15 years old, it all starts to wear, fatigue and needs to be replaced. I got rid of mine in the end (200,000km only) as in the last 3 years of my ownership it just started to cost a fortune to keep reliable as a daily driver. Overhauled power steer box and pump, new brake rotors and caliper piston kits, radiator and mounts, air conditioner condensor and other bits and pieces, brake master cylinder, shiockers, bit of rust getting into it (was used on the beach a fair bit), but you get my drift - if you can see receipts for some of this work, it may not cost you in the short term, but I can see a vehicle of this age and km's heading that way of an endless money pit.

Good luck with your search as I miss the old 80 sometimes, but the V8100 i have now kills it in most respects

Cheers


A

Hi Wherehegon,the old someone else is intrested trick, but they have not left a deposit. I made an offer to the yard on my cruiser and they accepted,then I left a deposit on the car subject to finance approval and mechanics report. They would not hold the car for me unless I left a deposit. So ask yourself why are they holding the car for some one without a deposit ? Because they are trying to draw in another buyer with scare tactics for want of a better term... As for the 1hz turbo,I have read about them plodding on well into the 700,000km mark when looked after. I currently have a gq patrol for sale and have not had one person come to test drive it in 8 weeks,only had 6 calls. these are testing times..Hope this helps.

WHG,

We've got a '97 model GXL, with 310K on it, and have spent next to nothing on it. I'd buy that sahara if you can get your trade up a bit. Just make sure the centre console fridge works though.....LOL.

Earlier we had a '90 model turbo, and it was a bit of a dog to drive, poor suspension mainly, but went like a train, and had no dramas with it.

With the number of 80 series on the road these days, I reckon there'll be plenty of good parts available for years. Good, regular servicing makes them last too, & a bit of TLC.

Hooroo,
Bob.

1992, 80 series GXL 1HD-T @300,000km's.

Have done a lot too it including new radiator, front axel seals, added deisel gas conversion as well as long range taks etc etc.

Can't fault it really, can't see why it won't get a LOT more km's yet.

The idea of buying a replacement engine and having it ready to drop in or buying a second hand one and rebuilding it ready to drop in, when needed, is sound if you have the spare $ IMHO

The 80 series TD's really are great tourers - the Saharas with all the bells and whistles - moreso!

Cheers

the early models did have bottom end bearing problems . the fuel pump can lose advance adjustment. mine has done 310 and oil pressure is dropping so is due ahother set of bearings . they were done courtesy of toyota at 125 thru their recall. the miulti valve after 94 is a superior motor . mine still goes great though

Wherehegone
With any car purchase you cant let emotion take control of your pocket---you have to be prepared to walk away if the deal is not to your complete satisfaction. Another vehicle WILL eventually come up and you will be glad you stuck to your guns regarding the dealers treatment of you. I personally dont believe the story about a lady buyer/finance etc so when he does ring you back--and he will!!---make it tough on him and the deal to suit YOU not him.!!!!