No loss of pionts for up to 15km over NSW

JON

NSW.....................The Revenue State

hhmmm......perfect number plate surround !

Jon,

How cynical of you. Give yourself an uppercut LOL

This is in response to many people losing their licences for 2 instances of speeding maybe 5 over during double demerit weekends.
3 points now x2 for double demerit x2.
There is a great groundswell of resentment.
Also even if the conviction is quashed in court , the points stand.

BTW I read a couple of days ago that he new premier does not have a licence. Shades of Carr.
Regards Philip A

Didn't NSW lower the fines and increase the points some time back as a saftey measure - up to 15km over the limit is currently $81 and it was much more than that 2 years ago.

Garry

Oh!!!!!!! for the return of the days when I had 3 licences. Qld Nsw and Vic. I think they woke up to all of us.

Damn national licence

The new caption on the bottom of the new NSW number plates is going to be THE STATE OF DISREPAIR......

Michael

Codswallop! You speed, you pay. I had thirteen speeding convictions by the time I was 21 years old. I have had ONE in the past 56 years. You know, or should do, that as soon as you pass another vehicle you are exceeding the speed limit.
It matters not if you are driving a four wheel drive or a Jaguar. Speeding is speeding and if you want to break the speed limit you should be prepared to pay the fine and loose the points.

Jon,

I personally think it's about time. Some of us making a living out on the road have 10 and 15 times the chance of dropping a few k's over the limit (compared to an average suburban driver) and whammo points accumulated and your sitting on the bench collecting welfare for a few months. I know bad things can happen to someone doing 1kph over the limit but cutting an hour out of your trip times each day also adds a safety margin in your favour too. It is a doubled edged sword out there and it comes down to putting other road users safety in the forefront of your mind before you wonder over the limit.

This has for a long time been my stance on demerit points for drivers: "the more k's you do (determined by a log book matched to rta cameras) the more demerits permitted to you before loss of licence"

example in point: granny May drives to church every Sunday and the local woollies every Thursday totalling 40km/week.....why the hell should she get the same amount of points as the interstater doing 5 or 6 thousand k's per week passing 1500 more speed cameras and mobile units each month than granny May? The odds are against the interstater to keep his/her licence when compared to average Joe or granny May.

My two bobs worth.
Regards Trevor.

The point that was raised earlier by someone about the drivers that drive less than 100k's a month compared to 2500k's a week is a very valid point, some drivers are on the road for a living, not just to get from the shops to home again or Bingo.The licensing system should reflect this. Why penalize someone for the amount of time spent on the road behind a wheel?
I know the transport industry has been pushing for this for many years all to no avail.
Unless the Politicians can get the Bureaucrats to change the rules,(I doubt they can) it is something we just have to live with.

Brian.. Speed is not the problem Speed does not kill!! Its that everyone is able to have a licence, thats the problem. I know a guy that had twelve, 1 hour driving lessons and 24, half hour lessons. he went for his licence 9 times before he finally got.. You thing even though he has a licence now, he is a competent driver.. There is plenty like him i can tell you.. I posted some months back that i drove about 7000ks in Europe last year on the freeways in a few countries, and boy, they speed way past the limits set and we didnt see an accident in 3 weeks. In Germany, learner drivers have to drive to the limit of the learner vehicle on the Autobahn as part of their "training" to prepare them for high speed and they have no speed restriction as soon as they get their licence.. We just have many brainless people with poor driving skills.. Sorry you are wrong!! Michael

There is a case to be made against mindless speeding but most of us are getting done for a few seconds loss of concentration in areas where the speed limit changes half a dozen times with a few ks. It's alright some old bugger going on about sticking to the limit when all he's ever done all his life is travel along the same route every day to work - (if you don't know the limits by now.......) I have to travel around Sydney suburbs in areas I just don't know at all. It' difficult enough trying to focus on the traffic and find an address without constant speed changes to deal with, that are there purely to catch people out. We all know of genuine blackspots that the RTA totally ignore but they're happy to put cameras at the bottom of a hill where there's a speed limit change.

Most accidents aren't caused by speeding but total lack of awareness of other road users or total lack of consideration of other road users. When I came back to Australia after years in the UK and Europe, I couldn't believe slowness and lack of concentration in drivers. Whether it's being so slow off the mark when lights change to green that only 3 or 4 cars get through or changing lanes without the slightest notion of what is in the other lane, and then they indicate when their manouvre is nearly complete because so many morons would close the space down if you let them know you wanted to change lanes.

As other have said, you don't find Germans crashing into each other all over the place because they actually watch where they are going and what others are doing. They also, like most European countries, hammer the messages home on govt funded ads on TV about safe lane changing, motorcyle awareness, headlight adjustment etc etc.....all we get here is this obsession with speed, yet our traffic moves far slower than most over there (congestion apart) The govt aren't remotely interested in safer roads, just the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

rant over ;-))

It's not just truck drivers that can clock up the Miles, although not many come close to the miles that they do each week.
Eg; Your touring the country. You can travel many, many miles in unfamiliar territory. The Pacific H/way and the New England both have over 22 odd cameras each. Most are in a position where you lest expect it. Just as an earlier post pointed out in the city with changing speed zones. Cause your going to get caught out.
After all they are called a 'Speed Trap'.

With the Silly season just about upon us again, each night we will see the the National road toll climb.

Can I just say,
Be smart, think twice and watch out for and consider other road users.

Cheers

Aah ah.
The penny drops yet again.
More Red Light Cameras for NSW.
Red light cameras across NSW plunder revenue

Not it's not about revenue at all.

Hey Hairs and Fysh,

Might have found where some of that revenue goes .... Interesting comment I found here ..... Site Link

"We should question both his motives and the appropriateness of the [PCA's] funding from the NRMA, NSW Motor Accident Commission and RTA of NSW. It is almost like the government is happy to cop some of his more outrageous outbursts as long as he leads the cheer squad for speed cameras and other draconian enforcement methods."

Makes you wonder huh ??? Was in 03 - but still happening ?????

I thought this was rather humourous too ... albiet hypocritical, considering the anti vehicle propaganda spewed from the man and his so called "council ".

" In 1986, Scruby allegedly drove his Mercedes into a jogger. He was acquitted of a charge of wanton driving after the magistrate blamed the jogger. "