Servicing of wheel bearings

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 15:11
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Hey guys,

Any thoughts on how often you should have the wheel bearings on a CT serviced? Is it a distance travelled thing or time frame or something an untrained eye like mine can detect? Have a Cub Supamatic Regal with the transcontinental pack.

Gary
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 15:46

Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 15:46
I would check and repack them every 12 months or before every major trip which ever is more frequent.

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Reply By: toyocrusa - Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:49

Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:49
Hi. If you are able to use a water proof hub seal and silastic the outer grease cap on then after cleaning/repacking the bearings(use a good quality Hi temp. bearing grease) you would be able to run them for many years without further service. There is an art to setting the preload(adjustment) when tightening up the axle nut.It can't be too tight but should not be loose either.Regards,Bob.
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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:51

Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:51
Hi Gary.
Landcruiser handbooks recommend every 12 months or 20,000 klms, Most caravan handbooks also say every 12 months.

However, I have seen Landcruisers whose wheel bearings have been regreased every 40,000 klms and they lasted for over 10 years (then sold) with no problem.

Anyway the job is relatively easy on a van or trailer so I see no reason not to do it every year, it's good preventative maintenance and gives you the chance to inspect and clean the brakes.

For your untrained eye or even a trained eye the bearings need to be removed to be inspected.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:10

Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:10
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You can't be serious surely, every 20,000 Ks for a Landcruiser, add another zero on that , that's how often I do mine, never had any problems, my caravan gets done once a year, and that depends on how much travelling it's done, it sat stationary for 8 months in Qld so the bearings were renewed and greased before I came to NT, They will be greased again sometime next year,

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Follow Up By: Cruiser 2091 - Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 08:59

Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 08:59
Hi Doug.

That's right Toyota recommend every 20,000klms, that's for regreasing not replacement of the bearings which I think you must be referring to.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:36

Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:36
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I'm not refering to any other thing as to what I typed, I just replaced the front bearings before leaving Qld, that will do now untill about somewhere between 150,000 and 200,00 Ks , There would be cars around that could be 10 or more years old and have never been looked at,
Of course if you do as Toyota or any other manufacturer wants then that gives them a job and $$$, What you said they recomend is the most stupid thing I've heard in a long time, I don't mean you persononally, what you got from the book.
Tota BS, .... SURE IT WASN'T A MIS-PRINT.
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Follow Up By: Cruiser 2091 - Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:15

Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:15
Hi Doug.
I'm not arguing, just trying to clarify my comments.

The OP asked about servicing wheel bearings which to me means removing inspecting and if OK regreasing and reassembling. My comments dont refer to fitting new bearing.

Now I don't disagree that many vehicles may go for years without service and seem to last forever but this is not good practice and should not be recommended.

After all we are talking preventative maintenance. I do agree that 20,000 Klms is a bit overkill for checking wheel bearings on a Landcruiser, particularly one that leads a pampered life (like mine) So as I said 40,000 Klms could be seen as more realistic.

By carrying out regular inspections a bearing which may be on it's way out could be identified before further damage could be done possibly to the Knuckle Spindle.

Anyway as my Toyota book as well as my caravan book both recommend the same service interval it would seem that if we were to increase that interval on one vehicle then why not do the same on the other. After all caravan wheel bearings are not subjected to the cornering loads that a car is. So my question to you is, why check a van every year and only your check a car every 10 years.

But as I said earlier caravans are so easy to do then why not do them every year.

Hope you take my comments in the context they were intended and that simply is an explanation of my thoughts.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:30

Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:30
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I know your not arguing, neither am I, I know you only stated from the Toyota book, All the vehicles I have ever owned have all been serviced by me ie oil, bearings, greasing, My opinion is stuff the books , I do it my way, OK if you feel the need to waste money every 40,000 Ks then so be it, Imagine when I was working the car as Pilot, I'd would have been doing it every 2 months at that 20,000 K idea, total waste of time and money, don't get me wrong, I agree with preventative maintenance, that's why the Caravan got new bearings and grease before I left Qld, I have no idea how old the bearings were that was in it but better than sitting on the side of the road between Camooweal and Tennant Creek, and sit I would because there's no way I'd leave my van any where unattended , There wouldn't be much left time one got back ,
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:58

Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 16:58
12 months sounds good, also before a major trip. It only takes an hour or two of your time and can save a lot of hassle on the side of a bush road if one fails. I would be doing them more often if you have done a lot of water crossings.

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Follow Up By: tommy1 - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:41

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:41
beautiful photo barnsey, I like it alot. Very well composed.
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Reply By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 18:12

Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 at 18:12
Gary,as the guys say, every 12 months is good. Also when you set out on that first/next trip, check the wheels for any give in the bearings and re-tighten if necessary, after a couple of hundred k's. A lesson drummed into me by a repairer after my boat trailer and near side wheel parted company near Mallacoota.
I have also now got into the habit of checking the wheels of the caravan for any excessive flog, and also put my hand on the bearing caps to check for excessive heat, just about everytime I stop whilst on the road. The caps should be no more than warm to touch. If they are red hot you have a problem. So easy to do when you stop for fuel/pitstop etc. Can save you a lot of heartache up the road. Cheers.

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Reply By: tommy1 - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 13:42

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 13:42
Hello all, I would like to add my bit in all of this, now I'm no pompous know it all but I will educate all about trailer maintenance. There was a question with regards to how long and why you do it every year with your van, bot, or basic trailer. They sit for too long idle, they get moisture in the bearings and they rust. Simple isn't it!
When you use a vehicle regularly, whether it is a trailer or a car or even a bicycle you create heat in the hubs, the moisture in the hubs and I will say there always is moisture there present at all times as atmospheric conditions on this planet make sure of this, evaporates and all is well. When the vehicle is left idle for some time, that moisture stays and you know what happens next. See the idiots on the sides of the roads everywhere in the hols, they are there because they have no idea about anything. All you smart people will do the bearings (inspect, regrease and or replace) once a year on those idle beasts, waiting to make your holiday a great one.
So for anyone who didn't know and I know there are a few of you suits out there that don't have a clue, this is your lesson from me. Common sense hopefully will prevail.
Merry Christmas and I hope I don't eat my words as I am not going to do my land cruiser bearings these hols. But I will do my trailer ones, its a given.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 13:56

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 13:56
ROFLMAO ,, methinks the tojo bearings may just need doing as well , lol.
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Follow Up By: stephen looking - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 16:53

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 16:53
Tommy1 where was that photo taken looks nice and cold.
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Follow Up By: tommy1 - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:34

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:34
hi stephen, As far as I can tell the picture was in russia, I think the person took a wrong turn. I gathered it of the net and I liked it so I posted it. I wouldnt be surprised if it did not recover as I cant see a tow truck even attempting to pull that one out.
One thing is for sure if it was recovered, the wheel bearings would have to be replaced.
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Reply By: tommy1 - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:39

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 at 17:39
On my honeymoon, the wife and I bought a car in Vancouver and spent 3 months driving up to the arctic circle and back, when we got there it was about -35, it is amazing how well vehicles perform in th cold. The biggest issues we had were the whole underside of the car became a solid mass of ice, so bad that the wheel arches froze up and allowed about 10mm between the tyre (tire in yanky land language) and the ice. the hand brake was unuseable and even if I had used it i probably would not have been able to unfreeze it.
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