Recovery points - Pajero NP
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:39
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Member - Richard P (NSW)
G'Day,
I am preparing my NP for some trekking in the new year and have noted that comments on the strength of the NP's recovery points are a bit sus!
Has anyone had a bad experience with the standard recovery points and/or would recommend fitting after market points, if so, what and where.
I have an ARB B/B and a H/R tow bar.
Your comments would be appreciated.
Cheers Richard
Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:42
Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:42
When the NM came out some MM engineers took a couple out into some san dunes and did some tests, repeatedly bogging one vehicle and then snatch recovering it with the other, measuring all forces with a strain gauge, then measuring body panels looking for signs of chassis distortion.
Happy to report they were unable to break the front loops and also did not manage to cause ANY didtortion to the chassis, despite repeatedly recovering from one loop only.
They used a Hayman Reece towbar for the rear point.
In conclusion, anyone that makes negative comments about the strength or otherwise of the Pajero recovery points is talking out of their backside.. ;-p
PS, I have a copy of the article if your interested..
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 14:57
Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 14:57
Hi John, I would like to see the article, can you point me to a reference ?
Thanks
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 15:30
Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 15:30
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Howzat!
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 07:10
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 07:10
Thanks John, However, I would point out that the numbers quoted are not very high. 27kN is about 2.7 ton and is not that excessive for a normal snatch recovery of a sand bogged vehicle. Consider it to be simply aiding an extraction with the bogged vehicle also driving. A real 'jerk' on a 'dead' vehicle would be considerably greater and one would hope that bits of metal from the vehicle would not suddenly become dangerous missiles. I think that these tests were ok for a straight line recovery of a 'shiny' 4x4 "on a slight sand hill" but should not be relied on in a serious bogging. There is a bit of hype in that article, a lot of words that don't mean much.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:57
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:57
Kiwi, I've seen them used in serious anger (not my car though ;-) and would not hesitate to use them. Would definitely use a bridle though if truly stuck, as I would with ANY vehicle.
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Reply By: psproule - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:28
Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:28
As stated - they are fine. In fact the NM - NS points are regarded as one of the few factory fitted ones that are Ok. Rear ones without a towbar are OK too, but they are removed when fitting a towbar.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 17:15
Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 17:15
The front ones on my old NM were used in anger a number of times although I did use a bridle. No dramas.
Used the Hayman Reese on the rear.
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Reply By: Member - Richard P (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 17:05
Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 17:05
Thanks John for your info. Would it be possible to email a copy of the article .
Regards
Richard P
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:43
Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:43
Richard, just right click on the article and "save as". It's an image scanned from a magazine. I don't have the original article in text form.
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