Where should I put other antennas with HF autotune on bullbar?
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 22:22
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Member - Sam S (NSW)
I have recently installed an
hf radio and have mounted the autotune antenna on the bullbar.
The problem is that I have 2 UHF antennas already mounted there and want to put a mobile phone antenna somewhere as
well!
I would really appreciate some advice as I have been told that the UHF radios will get a lot of interference from the
hf radio.
I would like to know if that interference will only occur if I am trying to transmit on hf and uhf at the same time? If that is the case I can live with it and will install all antennas on the bullbar as very unlikely that this will be the case.
Where should I install the broom antenna for the mobile?
regards and thanks in advance,
Sam
Reply By: PatrolSTL04 - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 00:27
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 00:27
G'day Sam,
Have heard that the Bull Bar is not a good place for HF Radios from a HF place in Canning Vale. One reason being for damage and the other to do with some ground plain or some lingo that they use. They reckon its ideally located higher on the vehicle, and the rear wheel carrier (or similar mount) is a good option, with half of the large round piece of the modern aerials just below the roof line and half of this above.
I can only agree with what they say, as I am no expert.
There will be some other members that reply with some good ideas I am sure.
Good Luck.
Brett....
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Reply By: Kiwi & Grenade - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 07:09
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 07:09
put it on the side of the bonnet....can get the bases to go there....the further all teh antennas are apart the less interference you will get...
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Reply By: traveller2 - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:17
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:17
Be aware that in most states it is illegal to mount a autotune HF antenna on the front of the vehicle. In Vic especially you will get booked if noticed.
If mounting at the rear the top half of the antenna must be above the roof line for best propagation and tuning.
Funnily enough we also had occasional problems when they were mounted close to the spare tyre due to the steel belts being a large insulated steel ring which mucked up the tuning.
There is usually no problem mounting tapped whips on the front.
Wherever you mount it ensure that the mounting and bullbar, door/whatever has a very good ground connection to the chassis.
Bullbars and rear doors are quite often not grounded
well enough for an autotune antenna.
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Reply By: anglepole - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:45
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:45
I agree the antenna should be mounted on the rear of the vehicle.
Brackets can be purchased that fit most popular 4WDs. They usually use the same holes on the door used by the wheel mounts.
Make sure you earth the the rear door properly by using some copper braid across a door hinge or use the antenna earth direct to the vehicle body.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 09:11
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 09:11
How many frequencies (Channels) do you intend to use??
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam S (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:25
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:25
Hi Signman.
I am guessing that we will have the scanner on for the frequencies of VKS737 and HFOz - is that what you mean?
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Reply By: rescue134 - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:24
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:24
hi sam
i would say that your vhf are 2mtr and fire??
i run uhf x 2 and hf auto tune on front bull bar with no interference,
but under road law the size of hf auto tune if too large for the front,
kevin
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 22:19
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 22:19
as stated above, I think you'll find there are legalities involved with where you can mount a
HF radio antenna.
Also (as stated above also) if you mount it on the rear, you really should have the autotune higher than your roof line for best use. It becomes a bugger to get it into car parks etc, but if you need to call for help from
the desert, you'll be very happy you had it fitted properly!
;-))
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 07:07
Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 07:07
Hi Brian
Looking at your profile it appears that you have the autotune mounted on the door, good idea would give extra height and better ground plane effect.
My thoughts were to mount the autotune off the spare wheel carrier, swing it out for skeds and use, stationary vehicle of course. I have an mount on the spare at the moment with the UHF antenna, that I thought I would move to the front bar. Looking at your set up perhaps I should move the antenna mount to the left side and put the autotune on the back door. Any thoughts, suggestions, who supplies the door mount fitting for an autotune?
Cheers
Russ
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 17:00
Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 17:00
Hi Russ,
The autotune on my Patrol is mounted to a proper mount built by Kaymar for the rear bar. It's fitted to the bar, and is the right height to get the best out of the antenna. I think I have seen somewhere on the 'net a mount that attaches to the rear door, but can't remember where it is.
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:02
Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:02
Hi Brian
Thanks.
I have felt there is waste space between the Kaymar bar and the back door, mountings and space not utilised.
Will work on that.
Thanks
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