Electric brakes on Vans

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 21:35
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If you have a camper or van with electric brakes, this will interest you, and probably applies to all brands of brake controllers.

We had a Tekonsha Voyager brake unit, and it worked well on all the units we owned over the years.
On the latest van, with tandem wheels, it was a bit erratic, so we bought the Prodigy – the best unit they make.

The Prodigy installed simply, and with the van on the driveway it behaved exactly as per the manual, when using the manual lever on the unit, or with the brake pedal.
When rolling backwards, or driving backwards, it performed exactly as per the manual, with both the manual lever or the brake pedal.

But, as soon as you drive forward, the van had no brakes, and the unit gave error codes.

A quick check on the Internet gave the suggestion – check the wires inside the hubs.
I sent a question to Tekonsha – who were very quick to reply – and they gave the same advice.
Taking the wheel and hub off – a quick look inside – and the wires appeared fine.
Grabbed one of the wires and turned it over, and sure enough, the insulation had been rubbed off exposing the wires – which would be shorting out when power is applied.

The wires inside the hubs are clipped onto the brake actuator arm, which is a rectangular length of steel (ie sharp edges).
As the magnet is energized, it moves pulling the wires – which rub on one edge of the arm, eventually wearing the insulation away – an inevitable fault.

Now here is the issue – the standard model brake controller will just keep pouring the power in, perhaps causing the insulation to catch fire. The newer (electronic) model simply refuses to work, and just gives error codes.

Just glad it didn't first happen going down the Toowoomba range or similar.

So – a word of wisdom – pull off the hubs on your Van or camper and take a careful look at the brake wires.

.........................................Keith
nb - with the wire fixed, the prodigy has worked brilliantly, and I will now be checking all 4 wheels.
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:25

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:25
Thanks Keith....when I bought my van, has tandem wheels and electric brakes, the first thing I did was pull the wheels apart....my wife with great surprise said to me that I should not worry because it was under warranty.....I replied " honey, there is no road side service in the bush, so if you don't know how to fix it and it stops working out there, then you are in trouble....DEEP.

The more you know whats going on the more prepared you are..... not only for yourself but you can help others too.....thanks again

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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:40

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:40
Hi Keith.

Personally I would prefer the earlier brake controller where the brakes kept working even though they may have done so less efficiently. I would prefer that as compared to the brakes failing completely.

I have seen insulation damaged as you describe which is a good arguement for removing the drums for maintenance every year or before major travell.

I also favour the old NSW rule for towing where the unladen weight of the van should not exceed the weight of the tow vehicle. This rule leaves more of a safety margin for van stability and braking.

Enjoy your travells.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:00

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:00
Thanks Keith,

Just about to do my brakes and bearings.

Will pay particular attention to the wires and might wrap them in a bit of insulation.

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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:12

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:12
Thanks for the tip - the prodigy is great IMV - on a recent trip to WA a small brass screw came loose in my trailer wiring connector - the prodigy advised an intermittent short (vibrating in and out of contact) via the display codes - found - fixed.
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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 14:39

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 14:39
Anyone know how much the prodigey costs and where did you get it ?
thanks guys,
Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - 1/2A - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 17:54

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 17:54
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Follow Up By: Member - Ros C (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 30, 2008 at 16:50

Sunday, Nov 30, 2008 at 16:50
Mine cost $485.00 fitted. My auto electrician supplied it so you could probably find it cheaper if you're installing it yourself. Google yields heaps of suppliers. Very happy with it although my trailer is very light (about 700 Kg) so the brakes are not exactly stressed.
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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 18:21

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 18:21
Thanks for that just the info I needed,
best wishes,
Dave
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