Bird Lovers Question

Submitted: Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:03
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HI all, lately we have had some rather interesting visitors hanging around the house. They are Blue Winged Kookaburras, which i recently found out by googling. I thought they were a Kingfisher, though they are the same family i know, just didnt think we got kookaburras in thr Kimberley. I love the sound these birds make when out bush, they bring back many memories of camping along the Ord River as a kid. Now i get to hear them at dusk and dawn, and i love it. I was just wondering if anyone knows of anything that i could leave out for them to feed on, i have water out there for them but it everytime i am cooking on the barbie they get really inquisitive and i feel bad not knowing if i can feed them something. Yesterday one was actually on the barbie for most of the day, i think he was waiting for me to start cooking!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as i really like these birds, and they seem to really like hanging around as they never venture far from the yard.

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Reply By: OzTroopy - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:14

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:14
Birds arent as dumb as most people think .....

Obviously the last place they were at had a Bar-B-Q as well ... lolol

Insects, small reptiles and frogs seem to be a staple diet ... any snacks from the barby should probably, only be raw mince.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:16

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:16
and forgot to mention .... maybe you have a snake problem you dont know about .... and the birds do ... lolol
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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:23

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:23
Hi Kroozer, first of all I know how you feel about Kookaburras, they are a lovely bird and like you I love their song (or should I say Laugh). Rule of thumb is that you are not supposed to feed native animals/birds unless it is necessary, but having said that we have the same problem with maggies here, what do you do when they come up to the door and look in to see what you are going to give them.Well yes I weakened but am very careful not to make a habit of it. As for what to feed Kookaburras, they are a meat eating bird, (hence the love of your BBQ ha ha ha) and when I was a kid our family had a pet Kooka and we use to feed it mutton mince and it thrived on it.
Just a footnote here, I've been led to believe that Kookaburras are not native to WA, over 100 years ago some one decided that they liked them so much they thought that WA should have them too so some were brought over from the Eastern States, not sure on the reliability of that. I read it somewhere.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 16:55

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 16:55
Hello - there are two species of kookaburra in WA. The Blue-winged Kookaburra is found in the north west and the Laughing Kookaburra in the south west. It is the Laughing Kookaburrah that was introduced from the east.

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Follow Up By: Blaze - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 17:00

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 17:00
Hi Guys, Just a quick note and I hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I was always led to believe that the Blue Winged Kookaburra didn't do the laugh. Only an Eastern bird does this. So you may be seeing a Blue Wing and hearing a Eastern..
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18
Dunworking et al


My understanding that the Laughing Jackass aka Kookaburra, was housed in the Perth zoo as an exhibit from the Eastern States as there we none to be found in WA. Then someone from that zoo made the decision to let 40 breeding pairs go free and so the Kookas colonised the South West of WA much to the disgust of the local fauna and the human inhabitants of that area.

The Blue Wing Kookaburra is endemic to Northern Australia and I am sure that its raucous chatter would be classed as laughing too.


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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 22:07

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 22:07
Hi Explorer, yeah it was the Laughing Kookaburra that I had read about, I must admit I was quite surprised to hear that they were introduced. They certainly didn't take long to breed because when we moved to the South of WA in 1956 there were plenty around through the Stirling Ranges then.

Hi Blaze, haven't had much to do with the Blue Wing variety so can't help there.

Hi Willem, thanks for that information, I can understand the opposition to letting the Kookaburras loose as really they are a menace to the native fauna, they are nest robbers and obviously proficient breeders, having said all that I do love those birds, those and the old pink and grey Galah. and of course the maggies.

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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:33

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:33
Be a bit careful about the Kookas as the barbie. I've seen them swoop down and take the meat off a (just lit) barbie.
They then just keep coming back for more.
I always thought that they killed and ate small snakes. But the ones here just refuse to have anything to do with the snakes at all, alive or dead. The smaller birds hassle the snakes. The Koalas just sit and watch with a huge grin.
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:43

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:43
I was on tour once and we stopped and watched 2 Kookaburra's catch a Golden Tree snake, one was jumping around on the ground with the snakes attention, the other was fling around watching, then the one on the ground jumped up about a metre and the other swooped and caught the snake by the head.

Things you see when you don't have a movie camera.

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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:51

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:51
That's exactly the behaviour I'd expected of our Kookas. But no way would they go near a snake, not sure why. Maybe they are just lazy...or a different kind of kooka...or too smart ? Who knows.
I don't go near snakes either, so I shouldn't whinge I guess :))
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 29, 2008 at 00:39

Saturday, Nov 29, 2008 at 00:39
*I was on tour once and we stopped and watched 2 Kookaburra's catch a Golden Tree snake*

Hiya Stevo

When you getting down for some more raspberry beer ?????

When i was at my block about 3 months after the fire i was moving some tin,The missus noticed the Kooka fly down a million miles an hour and the same thing a bloody snake,The fight begain it curled around its beak and head up in the tree while i believe the bird was trying to break the snakes back by jerking its head in one direction...

Got a photo of it sitting in the tree with the snake dangling like a piece of black rope...

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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:34

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 14:34
Hi Kroozer.

Feeding wild Birds and or Animals, In my opinion is not a good idea.

Reason being is they then rely on people feeding them, with the young ones watching they loose the need to hunt catch there own food, Birds will dive and take food out of your hand at a picnic, I have seen a Whistling Kite that had been fed by tourists, take a sandwich out of the hand of an elderly lady, it's talons left a nasty gash in her cheek, another reason is that the foods we eat can be harmful to our native creatures.

The Blue Winged Kookaburra is called the call of Kakadu here, as it is the first call in the morning and the last at night, they can live in the same tree for 15 years or more, the blue tail is the male and the brown tail female, their call is to let their neighbours know that they are home, it's a boundary thing.

An excellent DVD is The Call of Kakadu a documentary on the 6 seasons of Kakadu and it was filmed over a 10 year period at the Anbangbang Billabong near Nourlandgie rock, featuring a family of Blue Winged Kookaburras, it was filmed by David Curl an English Zoologist.

Cheers Steve.

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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:31

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:31
Awesome might have a look for that, sounds like it would be awesome.

Yeah i agree to everyone elses opinion of not feeding them now i think of it, dont really want them becoming reliant on humans for food, especially if they do have babies nearby. They have water outside, might just leave the outside lights on so if they really do need a feed there is always plenty of bugs, frogs, geckos etc hanging around.

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Reply By: Member - Vic S (VIC) - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:09

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:09
I agree with the view of dont feed unless they are starving but if you must only use fresh meat not packaged mince as most of it has preservitives and is not good for them
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Follow Up By: deserter - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18
I was listening to a bird expert on the radio recently. He said for either magpies or Kookas - go the the frozen pet food section of the supermarket and get the fresh frozen cat meat that comes in sealed packages. He insisted it was much better than butcher's meat. I think its roo meat.
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Reply By: Member - takenbyaliens (QLD) - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:24

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 15:24
I agree with Top End...feeding the Kookas may seem like a nice thing to do but it creates problems down the line. I have had food taken off the BBQ and on one occasion my daughter was about to put the sausage on a roll in her mouth and had it taken from her hand right in front of her face. The more they get fed the bigger the problem for those behind you.
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Reply By: wendys - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 17:45

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 17:45
Yes - love the blue wings. Am always amazed by their sound, not at all like the laugh of our kookas here in Vic. You should not feed them, no matter how appealing they are. A couple of reasons for this: 1. You will make them dependent on you for food and then they may starve if your food supply dries up. 2. Kookas can become very bold if fed by people. We have seen this at Carnarvon Gorge NP in Qld, when the campground there was open. Kookas got in the habit of taking food from BBQ's and picnic tables; one went to grab a sausage from fork as lady was putting it to her mouth, misjudged slightly and went through her cheek - very nasty wound. Their beaks are incredibly sharp and strong.
Just stick to providing water they can drink and bath in and leave them to hunt own food - should be plenty for them in your part of the world!
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Reply By: Flywest - Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18

Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 18:18
Lots of salt and a hot flame is best - there OK with potatoes.
Can be a little chewey and stringy if underdone!
Leg meat can be a bit rich/strong for some stomachs - the breast is usually OK.

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