Does spelling really count ?
Submitted: Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:21
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Member - Footloose
I was looking at an ad for a
well known camper trailer recently, and the agent proudly proclaimed "This van has been fully pre delivered and checked over by our technitians"
technitians eh ?
When I was a
young fella I once missed out on a job because I'd spelt the word in that way. Fortunately there are spell checkers around today!
And now someone wants me to part with 35+K for a mobile tent that's been checked by tech nit ians.
If you were in the market for one, would that spelling instil a sense of confidence in their product , sales and after sales abilities ?
I often make spelling mistakes, but this ad represents a
well known product which seems to have a good name. Surely this mistake, is a one off. Maybe but......
I'm afraid it conjures up visions of slick haired twenty somethings with a sales patter that has been extracted from a death adder.
Kewliez, dude. Ab solutely! (said ad nauseum)
Or am I just nit ian picking ?:))
Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:24
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:24
LOL demand a discount
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:30
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:30
Al, your response was faster than greased lightning ! 3 minutes from my post.
It actually took me longer than that to spot a mistake in my posting LOL
"
well known" should of been "
well known BRAND"
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:33
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:33
Footy,
Place your cursor/mouse point on "young" in your original post. It comes up with "
Young the Cherry Capitol of NSW" ..... sigh :(
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:01
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:01
"
well known" should of been "
well known BRAND"
And perhaps "of" should have been "have" :-)
Sorry...just nit picking....but don't worry m8 your not a looser, just becoz today's poor spelling and grammar brakes you're heart.
Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:09
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:09
Glenn, you are quite correct.
But I am not attempting to make you part with $35K for a new camper trailer :)
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:37
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:37
Ha ha ...... looser should have been "loser"!
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:52
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:52
" Ha ha ...... looser should have been "loser"! "
Beautiful work there Shaker:-)
So you didn't pick up the other... err...'typos'?
Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:23
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:23
Ah, people using of, instead of have is a big mistake. Very common these days.
It stems from people confusing 've with of. eg I could've is replaced with I could of. Very, very wrong.
It all comes from English teachers spending time over analysing novels rasther than teaching the language.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 15:16
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 15:16
........and leaving the parents to do the teaching whilst they focus on Pupil Free Days, strikes and eulogise about global warming and such.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 16:43
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 16:43
Steve, if it's such a great job then perhaps you should apply ?
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 17:52
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 17:52
Over-qualified
:))
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 18:03
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 18:03
Steve, somehow I find that difficult to believe.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:43
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:43
Thank you for your confidence but it doesn't take much.
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:09
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:09
"........and leaving the parents to do the teaching whilst they focus on Pupil Free Days, strikes and eulogise about global warming and such."
If it's not a parents role to teach their children the basics of life, such as a reasonable command of the language, then what is our role? Too many parents send their kids off to school for 6 hours a day and expect the teachers to fulfil far more roles than they are trained or equipped to do.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:39
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:39
Hmmmm ... as usual, the blame game starts.
The simple fact is that people who can't spell have one person to blame, THEMSELVES. All they have to do is get off their butts and put a bit of effort into it. Learning does'nt stop once you leave school. It goes on for the rest of your life.
Now we'll hear from the usual bunch of whingers who still need to blame someone or something else for all that afflicts them.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:47
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:47
I couldn't agree more. I just feel in our case, the balance needs to be re-dressed from the other direction.
I would never expect a teacher to attempt to take on any more than they are trained for but I do expect a teacher to teach the basics. They don't always do that very
well in our experience. Reading, grammar and basic maths are often overlooked in favour of trendy issues/topics. Our boys often come home with homework that they are expected to complete when the topic/subject hasn't even been given a mention at school. That gives us the distinct impression that there is an expectation for us to be doing the teaching whilst they ramble on about irrelevant topics. I understand the curriculum is, to a large degree, set out for the teachers, but still, that doesn't excuse failure to mark homework that the kids have taken the trouble to complete.
I suppose the general tone of my initiial reply would prompt sensitive response but that, too is our experience with a very close relative and near neighbour. Maybe it's a gerational thing and I'm becoming an old phart.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 13:34
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 13:34
And perhaps you're responsing as a typical one eyed parent ? i.e My kids can do no wrong, it's your job to teach them not
mine.
Had you ever faced a class of 30+ kids who really had no desire to be there, you might have had a different perspective.
A friend of
mine blames the school for what he is slowly coming to grips with...his boys have learning difficulties because of psychological problems. (and I wonder where they might have originated ?)
He was previously quite proud of the way he stormed into the school to sort the teacher out. Wow, now that's productive !
Contacted me to provide the appropriate curriculum documents ...he couldn't make head or tail of them and ...etc etc
Unless your child is at a private school, what your expectations are don't count much. Sad but true.
Positive reinforcement of your child's learning experiences and environment can go a long way. But if you absolutely cannot stomach the teacher/school then there are alternatives.
If your child knows that you don't like the school/teacher then thats a lesson they learn very quickly indeed.
But first walk a mile in their teacher's shoes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 15:12
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 15:12
responsing= typo
responding ...of course :))
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 15:27
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 15:27
Head nor tail ....
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Follow Up By: Steve - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 17:49
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 17:49
Footloose:
I was a bit quick with making generalisations in my initial post. Please accept my apologies for any offence taken.
regards,
Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 20:18
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 20:18
Steve, no offence taken; my fault for jumping too quickly. I'm old enough to know better :)))
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 20:54
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 20:54
Ooooh,
I'm feeling the love :-)
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Reply By: PradOz - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:27
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:27
maybe you are nit picking??
or, maybe the camper trailer company are very clever. After all, when you happen to buy a lemon, they never said they had experts do the quality control etc so does it allow them to stuff you around - tech nit ically speaking that is
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:33
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:33
Or perhaps the guy writing the ad just had nits on his mind ?
I still think that the buying public deserve better. After all, how many people would buy a vehicle at a Karyard ?
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:48
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:48
nit picking?
i am a firm believer if you are advertising something then spelling should be correct....(my errors excepted)
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:27
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:27
Or perhaps one may have used upper case letters to commence a sentence?
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:23
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:23
Jim, in the spirit of the post; one might....not one may. One is singular in this position and may is used for more than one.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:33
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:33
Thanks Footy, I 've learnt my new thing for the day and it's before midday. The pressure is off LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 16:35
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 16:35
Jim, wan't trying to have a go or to pontificate. Some grammer simply grates on the eye, I have a friend who says I are; when I suggested that it wasn't correct he went off his brain. So I told him it aren't right :))))
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:46
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:46
Jim,
No offence, at all, taken.
All in the spirit of the post.
Poor grammar (as opposed to grammer) really irks me, but it is the way the world is going.
One all :-)
Good fun,
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 17:38
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 17:38
i can start a sentence any way one may want
but i usually do it my way....
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:32
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:32
The advert was probably written by one of the new generation of school leavers who came through the Qld. edumaction sizetem cos the tuchers caarnt use a red pen tos marks dem est pepers cos litttle Jonbubba might gets upsets.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:36
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:36
You could be right! Probably has nightmares about the red (pens) under the bed :))
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:49
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:49
same as my son (sic) mumbles and cant understand why we dont understand him...hahaha
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23
I red penned my sons last high school report to correct spelling and grammar errors and sent it back to the school scored 5/10.
My son asked me not to do it again - his teachers gave him a hard time about it.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:28
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:28
beautiful...:)))
and they're teaching our kids what
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Follow Up By: GypsyOne - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:43
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:43
Don't mention the use of a red pen here in Qld at the moment.
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Reply By: Member - Kevin J (QLD) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:52
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 17:52
Did you let the manufacturer know?
It may have been just a 'proof readers oversight' like all the mistakes in the papers.
Kevin J
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:00
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:00
Hi Footy,
I think you are on the money with this. If the manufacturer's attention to detail is that poor in the first impression, the sales speel what is it going to be like once they have your cash?
As a side note to the younger generation, that gibberish you put in text messages is fine between each other.
Putting it into the application for graduate engineering positions you've submitted to my company and myself isn't. If you haven't got a clue why I haven't responded to your application I'll give you a free hint right here, I haven't got a clue what you are trying to tell me!
All your carefully crafted buzz word bingo and SMS speak is in the bin under my desk.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:24
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:24
Hi Geoff, totally agree !
English is a dynamic language, always changing. But one should be aware of the current spelling and grammatical conventions. And they're not meant to change every 5 minutes, depending upon who you're SMSing.
I know it's fashionable to blame the teachers and lecturers, but they have to read that rubbish. At least you can just bin it (and I know that they wish that they could). And after seeing the word "the" spelt 30 different ways, it's a wonder if they can remember the correct spelling anyway.
I wonder how many homes actually have a dictionary in them these days?
How many parents encourage their children (especially dads with their boys) to read?
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:51
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:51
spot on Geoff
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Follow Up By: balko - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:52
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:52
Well Geoff you could stick you,r job where it fits and please let me know for the next time i quote on you,r job that i wont win the job because i cant spell ( not because you don't like my price ). As a adult who suffered from a severe writing and spelling disorder as a child right through school 70s and 80s you,r comment disgusts me some people like myself its disability that over the years has only improved slightly but with the use of computers makes it a lot easier to interact in not only day to day living (i carry a small credit card sized spelling machine) but also to be in business for which i am and have been for 12 years with 10 employees. if my clients (builders and
home owners were to throw my quotes out if i spelt something wrong i would never get a job But i allways make a point off speaking to all clients to show them what sort of a person they will be getting. So im sorry if my spelling is not up to you,r standard. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:42
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:42
Careful Tony, we wouldn't want to actually read what was there and miss out on an agenda.
Take a deep breath and go back and READ what I wrote.
It was a very tongue in cheek dig at the 16 to 25 age group and their love affair with SMS speak. To the point were they are submitting it in job applications, note I said job applications, NOT quotes.
See, you would go very
well with me. You have attention to detail, you've just told me that.
Example, my younger brother, same era, same age group has similar challenges to you. When he does a job application or similar he gets a hand, be it human or technology. Just like you do.
Nothing wrong with that, it's called attention to detail. Something the average 16-25 with their SMS gibberish lacks and more to their detriment do not persue.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:08
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:08
And on that note , sales speel ? Sales spiel . Just some attention to detail .
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Reply By: Member -Carl R (QLD) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:13
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:13
My step daughter is studying to be a teacher and I can't read she work the spelling is so bad and the teachers at uni don't seem to care.I pity our grand children.
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:23
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:23
Footy
As much as I am a purist for correct spelling and being brought up in the 'old school', I don't think it is really of any concern if spelling becomes an issue in business these days.
The 'general public' would seldom realise that there is a spelling mistake in any promotion as we are bombarded by all the media with endless advertisements for whatever on an hourly basis.
When I have pointed out spelling mistakes to businesses in their advertising the general response could be "So what?" or "Ho Hum"
The world is a place of constant change and we may have to Go with the Flow, so to speak.....LOL
No, I don't think that spelling would alter the quality of the manufactured goods.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:27
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:27
Willem, im nut tirely in agrement wif ya dare dude. :))
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:14
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:14
Hi Willem,
I work in electrical engineering were a loose relationship with the written word can become a serious problem.
A sentence in a specification that states, "Motor 2 will start 3.8 seconds after motor 1" means exactly that and that is what I will darn
well do for the customer. We live and die by supplying exactly that!
On the other hand a loose relationship to the language that says, "Motor 2 could of start 3.8 seconds after motor 1" doesn't help anyone, us or the customer. Most anything from immediately to almost never satisfies that requirement.
Apply that sort of relationship to building the
Sydney Harbour Bridge or some other major engineering structure and the quality of manufactured goods is very certainly troubled.
It's no accident there is a skills shortage in this world!
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:48
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:48
Ummmm Geoff
I wasn't quite alluding to something as specific as that....LOL
More like in the sales pitch area.
As kids we were drummed in to spelling right and have legible writing and in more than one language. I try to maintain that (although the writing bit has suffered a tad) at all times, typos excluded.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 23:02
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 23:02
Fair call mate, I guess I see the problem from an entirely different angle!
Including what happens when our sales people are fast and loose with the written word.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 13:41
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 13:41
I work in electrical engineering w(h)ere a loose relationship with the written word can become a serious problem ;)
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Reply By: didiaust - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:38
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:38
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in what oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is tahtthe frist andlsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Amzanig huh?
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:28
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:28
Try reading a foreign language and see how far you get. AFAIK In English we actually can decipher things because we get visual clues from the "pointers" in a sentence. The pointers are independent of the spelling.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:40
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:40
Poor spelling is bad enough Footy,
but don't get me on to:
Inappropriate use of an apostrophe,
A split infinitive,
Or, God forbid, a dangling participle.
I hate that!!
cheers
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:51
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:51
"Or, God forbid, a dangling participle"
Don't pull your shorts up so high then :)))
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Follow Up By: Supercalafreakinawesome- Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:03
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:03
ROFLMA that should have been in the friday funnies Gramps
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:14
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:14
Supercalafreakinawesome,
Glad you got a chuckle out of it. You're obviously twisted like myself.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:03
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:03
Very bloody funny Al.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:05
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:05
Footy, it would put me off, although i find this error somewhat humorous. I think lack of attention to detail in advertising material could translate to lack of attention to detail in quality control. We do see atrocious errors not picked up by proof readers everywhere these days, and the "spell checkers" generally want to change words to US versions.
When my children were at school, i was
well known by the teachers for going through the school newsletters with a yellow highlighter marking all the spelling errors. One primary school teacher,
well known for her cold and supercilious manner, once avoided answering the question in my handwritten letter by saying "your mother has made a spelling error - she's written TO instead of TOO". Did i have fun with her blackboard on my next visit to the school - marking all her spelling errors. I had the advantage, as the lesson had been on breeds of
farm animals.
One daughter did her first 'school work experience week' at a small school which my younger children attended. When the teacher gave the class a lecture on the importance of correct spelling, she couldn't resist pointing to an error on the board and saying "What if the Teacher makes a spelling error?" "You're just like your Mother" was his laughing response.
This attitude on spelling does not continue on the the
forum, where posts are made quickly and are a form of conversation, so i do not expect perfection here and would never criticise others for less than perfect spelling and grammar.
Motherhen
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:09
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:09
Footy..... I'm 100% with you! Spelling is a basic language function and I can't believe how bad it is getting.
I once went to a café here on the Coast for lunch and studied the chalkboard menu at length. When the girl asked what I wanted, I replied;
"There's 28 spelling mistakes in your menu!"
LOL....
And I can't bring myself to use text-talk in an SMS message either! I understand why people do, I just choose to type my SMS messages properly!
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:22
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:22
Brian,
not fair.
You are using MS WORD to compose your posts then cutting and pasting.
How else would you get the accent on the "e" in cafe (I'm not using WORD).
Well done.
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul C (WA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:39
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:39
Character Map in your Accesories Menu will do it.
Simply select, copy and paste wherever you like.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 19:10
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 19:10
Accent on the e.......................Alt 0233= é
I use a number of these when writing in another language such as Alt 0252 = ü
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul C (WA) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 19:32
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 19:32
Well there's my lesson for the day.
Shortcut is actually listed in Character Map, never noticed that before.
Thanks
Paul
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 18:33
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 18:33
"Gone Bush (WA) posted:
Brian,
not fair.
You are using MS WORD to compose your posts then cutting and pasting.
How else would you get the accent on the "e" in cafe (I'm not using WORD).
Well done."
Ummmmm.... no, I can't take credit for that. I hit the ExplorOz Spell Checker before I submitted the reply and "café" was amongst the variants for "cafe"........ so you'll have to be less impressed with me and more impressed with David for having that in the list!! LOL.......
I have thought of using Word to compose these things, but in the end I can write sufficiently goodly to knot knead to....
;-))
And Willem knows much more about this than I do....
well done Willem!!
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:36
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:36
You can also hold down the [ALT] key and type in ASCII codes direct.
For example [ALT]+167 = º
The degree symbol. Others are:
171 - ½
172 - ¼
248 - °
253 - ²
Look on here and have fun:
ASCII Table
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:28
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:28
This POST has been Moderated because it contravenes the rule banning Pedantic old farts from pontificating about the benefits of the Education System in place for Baby Boomers.
Next they will be going on about chanting the Times Tables and how
young people can't do mental maths.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:29
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:29
Boy, I remember when we used to chant our times tables.
Do you notice that
young people can't do mental maths??
cheers
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:59
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:59
Ah, so very true.
A few years back I was sitting adding up a list of the bills at night's end in my restaurant. Funnily enough, I was doing this with a pen, paper and my meagre brain.
A younger person commented "You're brainy, you can do that without a calculator".
It gets worse.
Young bloke working for me regularly asks questions like "What is half of 32?"
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:29
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:29
Just in case ... It's 16 Jim.
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Reply By: 96 GXL 80 series - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:32
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:32
Footloose: go straight out and buy it, get cash out of your bank.
if he can't spell he might not be able to count $1000.00, $3000.00, $4000.00 $6000.00 get my drift.
By the time you got to $35.000.00 you could save at least $15.000 for the trip around Aus.
that way it wouldn't matter if the warranty was not covered.
you would save thousands of $$$$$'s
Cheers and happy
camping 96
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Reply By: nickb - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:58
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:58
Probably not the best way to inspire confidence. In saying that, my old mechanic couldn't spell to save his life but his mechanical skill and knowhow was second to none!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:13
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:13
Agreed nickb
Small business tradesmen may not be as good as spelling as they are at their trade - i know a few like that. However that is different to a company putting out advertising materials about the product they build - it doesn't inspire confidence.
Mh
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:31
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:31
That's a good point but if they were to advertise they would get someone to help who was good at spelling.....
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:25
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:25
See how you all go with these 25 words.
25 Most Commonly Misspelled Words
Anyone get 100%......................
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:42
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:42
Only 72% :((((
Technician however, is not one of the words...
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:12
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:12
When you insert a link, you have to delete the http if there's already one in the one you're pasting.
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:29
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:29
Yeah thanks Mike - I realised too late there was one there already
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:39
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:39
" Anyone get 100%...................... "
I doubt it. Some of their 'correct' answers are just plain wrong.
One has 2 correct answers...but only 1 is given as correct.
Well, that is according to Webster's Concise English Dictionary.
Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:18
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:18
I don't supposed you noticed it's a .com site and therefore all those words are in "American English" the ultimate oxymoron?
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:38
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:38
Sigh Americanised spelling of words, suddenly that becomes a quasi standard across the globe
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:59
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 20:59
Footy,
As a
young, studying, Personnel Officer, back in about 84 I advertised for apprenticeships for the company which employed me at the time.
I received some 900 plus applications. Each application ran into many pages.
If I read one spelling mistake in an application it was dropped onto the floor into the pile in my office.
Why? Because with that many to go through, my attitude was: If you can't even bother to submit a properly vetted application, you are not trying hard enough.
As for that gr8 and 2mrw rot? Leaves me cold.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:07
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:07
Hey Footy
This old Plumber has the Dictionary on the office desk all the time,
I hate to misspell words, even when going to school we had to
spell words in Parrot Fashion over & over, also our Tables ect,
any way I only went to Grade Eight or what they called Scholarship,
then spent Five years at Tech College learning to be a Plumber,
these days all you need is a Hacksaw, Multi Grips, and PVC Glue,
and a Ten Million Dollar Public Risk Insurance Policy, and a Ad in the
Yellow Pages lol lol.
Cheers
Daza
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:34
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:34
DAZA
hhmm.......old eh?
pictured you as a
young virile athlete LOL
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Reply By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:29
Friday, Dec 05, 2008 at 22:29
FOOTY
i'll help ya mate.................Image Could Not Be Found
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Reply By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 00:03
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 00:03
I think most small businesses don't employ proof-readers and I'm pretty sure most spelling errors occur at the printing house. It should be a printer's business to make sure there are no spelling mistakes.
Take a restaurant for instance; they may advertise as well as get menus printed. By and large you assume that the professional that you are giving the work to will do their job. The printer brings you a sample of the finished product and talks up the eye-catching colour and layout etc. You are thinking about how big the print is for the customers to read, how attractive it looks etc. The amount of restaurants with spelling mistakes in their menus is amazing.
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:50
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:50
I worked in the print industry - we only printed from teh approved the proof signed by the customer. Regardless of who produced the artwork, the customer had to sign off on the artwork, colours, paper type, folding style and packaging before we would run the machines.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:51
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:51
And I didn't spell check my response - DOH!
Pete
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Follow Up By: GypsyOne - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:56
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:56
I deal with print people from time to time and that seems to be 'normal' with in the industry.
And not spell checking...that is a mortal sin Pete
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:18
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:18
Especially in this thread!
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Follow Up By: GypsyOne - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:25
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:25
Too right...
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:15
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:15
"When I was a
young fella"
Hahahahaha....
When you were a
young fella Footloose........
When you were a
young fella they were still debating if an Abacus was witchcraft,.....IN LATIN
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:20
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:20
Actually Hairy we were forced to read a French classic called "La balon rouge"....I've probably mis spelt it after all those years.
What an idiot of a kid I was. Hated French, how stupid of me. The French teacher was
young and attractive, and the few words I've retained have served me well.
We only had one Latin student at our school and he didn't last.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31
Gday Footy,
We had to read a "Shakespeare"...of your choice.
I still remember my English teacher saying "Once you learn to appreciate Shakespeare you will love the book".........what a load of bleep e.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 21:20
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 21:20
Bloody Shakespeare :-(
One of our tasks in fifth form English was to summarise "Romeo and Juliet", which we had been forced to endure.
My metaphorical summation likened it to a hamburger:
-a liitle bit of substance, being the meat
-a few addititves there for nothing but flavour, being the lettuce and tomato
-and a lot of padding to fill it out, being the bread roll.
Didn't I cop a bollocking for that?
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Breakerman - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:12
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:12
Hairy,
"We had to read a "Shakespeare"...of your choice.
I still remember my English teacher saying "Once you learn to appreciate Shakespeare you will love the book".........what a load of bleep e. "
Well there goes 400 years of unanimity that Shakespeare is the greatest writer who has drawn breath.
The Bogan speaketh!!
Breakerman.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:29
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:29
Now Hairy, we know you loved Shakespeare ( I did). It was having to read that dross dished up by Jane Austen that turned my stomach.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:40
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:40
Gramps, ahh. But did you have to study "Sons and Lovers" (DH Lawrance)? As I recall it was as dry as...until it all happened starting on page 163 if I remember correctly.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:45
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:45
Footy,
LOL vaguely remember S&L. Do remember our teacher skipping past the more 'interesting' passages in Othello though :)))
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:24
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:24
Breakerman,
You need to get out more!!!
And sorry I destroyed 400 years for you
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:30
Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:30
Footy and Gramps,
Not sure about "Jane Austen" but Mum and Dad are here for Christmas so Ill get them to ring Gran and jolt their memories so the can tell me about her...
LOL
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Reply By: Member - Julie P (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 07:51
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 07:51
I agree with your sentiments - makes a company look really unprofessional - and they can't blame spellcheck - their marketing department need a good shake up. A guy I know has just written a handbook for telemarketers - and one of the most prominent items in it is the mispronunciation of words - "aks" "honory" "Febry" etc - same goes for the written word - unfortunately if you say it wrong you can't sound it out correctly.
jules
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:07
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:07
Julie,
I lost your number, re Caravan Book.
Can you please email to me
jimbest at bestoffroad dot net dot au
Thanks,
Jim.
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Reply By: Wazza - (Vic) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:28
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:28
$35k ... sure it is not $13k ???
Quick google for "This van has been fully pre delivered and checked over by our technitians"
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31
Absolutely. It was a new one. Sorry can't mention the brand (although some here own one). Lets just say they are more top shelf than bottom :))
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:36
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:36
People say that spelling is unimportant in this 'computer age', but it makes it very hard to do an effective search, as is often evident on this site.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:02
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 at 20:02
I hope whoever buys it has good suspention on their car...... ;-)
Cheers,
Mark
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Reply By: Flywest - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:16
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:16
You guys are worse than my ol mum... 77 ears old and a spelling and grammer nazi!
Can't even let her go to Galleria shopping on her own any more without the police bringing her home.........
Disturbing the peace no less - and for what - the center managr put up a sign saying "Homeswest has Moved" etc
According to ol mum it should read "Homeswest have moved" e.g. we has moved has we?... exactly - we have moved!
So - how can the kids learn when adults put up signs with the wrong grammer - so she goes and berates the center manager about his abysmal spelling and grammer etc in a public place....berating him (a grown man no less).... hence the police escort home!
Coulda been worse - the week before she beat some bag snatcher youth half to death with half a house brick inside her handbag then sat on him till security arrived.......and another escorted trip home - now I have to do the shoping for her for goodness sakes, in order to keep the public safe - you see Glenice @ Galleria and she has her red umbrella - fair warning it's every man for himself!
Whatever you do - don't put up any signs that have incorrect spelling or grammer - shes the veritable spelling police and grammer nazi all rolled into one...
77 and about 4 ft 9 or so - she has even the police cowering....they all know her on a first names basis.....ohh and she really has a thing abou graffiti kids so - word to the wise eh - best know whereyour kids are after dark parents....coz I can't protect them if she gets loose on her own!
Spelling and grammer sets her off- but then just about anything does these days - its only since we tok her driving license away shge stoped going to the TV & radio studios to lambaste the news presenters for incorrect grammer!
Heck, I hope I'm half as ornery as her when I'm that age!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul C (WA) - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:30
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:30
I hope she never gets to read your response above!
Coulda, tok,@,till,grammer,coz,shge,whereyour....! LOL
Tongue planted firmly in cheek at this point.
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Reply By: Ozboc - Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 22:03
Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 at 22:03
at least its one word wrong , have you seen kids and there spelling skills ? i had recently seen some posts in a
forum for people aged about 16 -18 years .... there was not one word spelt correctly apart from there names and 2 letter words ... It appears to be "cool" to spell everything wrong .. example "wat ya Fink" ( what do you think ?) I am certainly no grammar expert but compared to the new crop of up and coming workers from high school ..... I am a professor at Grammar ... Itz jst fooly sik mhate......
Boc
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