Should I take the old hilux and camper to fraser?

We are planning a trip to Fraser shortly but I dont know if I have the equipment to do it safely.

The plan is to camp at Central Station. But I am having 2nd thoughts whether it is safe for me to do so. I have never been to fraser - I had some friends coming but they have bailed so its just me the wife and kids.

I will have my old Hilux 1989 dual cab diesel 3 ltr (no turbo) towing a biggesh camper trailer. I dont want to go around the island with the trailer - I just want to get the trailer to Central Station and camp there for entire time. I have never taken the old beast in sand so i dont know if it has the grunt or will overheat in sand etc. I have also not driven on sand - I have only been offroad with the camper on dry dirt tracks. Clearance is not a problem with the hilux. The plan is to get a better fourby but cant yet.

1st question is - is the hervey bay barge easier to access central station than the inskip point barge ie.. getting on an off?

Is the track into central station soft sand or gravel or what?

Would appreciate some feedback - thanks. Should I go over to fraser or just stick to hervey bay!!
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:39

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:39
Dont Worry... be happy...as long as the Hilux goes it will get you
there, either way. Reduce tyre pressure, travel on the low tide.
Relax & enjoy...its no big deal driving on Fraser if you use common
sense...& put the hubs in...:)))).....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:52

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:52
Just to add to this,
Take your own snatch strap and recovery gear to use if you do get stuck.

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Reply By: CLC50 (QLD ) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:49

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:49
Have a great time
Into central is very rough some times like most tracks in the centre of the Island ,Camp on the beach camp sites with the Camper & travel the Island, Drop your Tyre pressure to 18 Psi even lower & go via Rainbow Beach Inskip Point Travel on the beach @ Low Tide it is like a Hwy.But be aware of wash outs across the beach they can be very deep & hit them at Speed you can say goodbye to your front end Springs & all. My old Nissan has been on the Island so many Times I have Lost Count.my Truck is 3.75 Tonnes & I have no problems.
As I live on the Sunshine Coast,Inskip is a good area to camp to wait for the low tide as the barges leave from the Point ,
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Reply By: Cram - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:54

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:54
The Inskip Point option is the best. The track from the Hervey Bay barge is the inland track and when we there about twelve months ago it was in really bad chewed up and we had difficulties towing the camper trailer in the boggy sand.

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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:58

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:58
Inskip or the bay ? More a question of where you are coming from ,north or south ? If from the south inskip is the go ,, tyre pressure on all 6 wheels is the most important factor , just before you hit the sand, dropem down to 18/20 psi and see how you go , if needed you can always go a bit lower to 12 psi or so but its best to start a little high to give you the option ,,, would recomend that you carry a snatch strap as the bare minimum just incase you do become stuck , lots will pull you out using your gear ,, long handle shovel never goes astray on Fraser either ,, Driving on the sand at Fraser = magic.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 17:25

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 17:25
Inskip is ok, but if its your first time and you are camping at Central
Station, use the Barge from River Heads, it goes to Kingfisher Bay
Resort, and its quicker to Central Station, if you get into trouble
re getting bogged ect, there is allways somebody to help you out,
just take your own recovery gear eg Snatch Strap and Tyre Pump
for when driving conditions are better, you dont want to drive around
on hard sand with low pressure in your tyres, have fun.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 18:54

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 18:54
2nd that one.

That way you get the camper set up before you hit the serious tracks.

The track from the ferry at Kingfidher can be a bit cut up and soft, but with all the rain we have had should be reasonably firm, for a sandy track.

The damp sand is almost as good as 10 psi out of the tyres.

Once you have the camper off, then you can get a bit more experience with the sand. On and off the beach are the trickiest, and the occasional long soft patch on a track, but if damp from rain are not too bad.

So keep praying for some more rain until a day or two before you go. :o)
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Follow Up By: guzzi - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:11

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:11
The inland tracks can be a bit of a challenge if its dry, if its rained recently they're usually pretty good, except for the oncoming tour bus's who think they own the place.
Central station, minimum breeze, lots of mossies, the bollard fairey evolved here, they've put the fricken things everywhere, parking a largish camper will be a nightmare, they've made it a challenge for a 3 man tent..
IMO far better to camp on the beach, easier access, no bollards, few mossies (but you WILL get sand flies), and a guaranteed breeze.
You will however need your own toilet/shower etc.
Life and travel is dictated by the tides so plan around them.
Which ever way you do it Frazers a top spot, enjoy yourself.
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Reply By: rumpig - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:12

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:12
if you time your trip so that you hit fraser island an hour before lowtide then you should have no problems. let your tyres down to 18 psi or even 16 psi if you have doubts, you can always pump them back up to 18 or 20psi (assuming you have a 12V pump) once your on the harder sand after getting off of the barge on the other side. an hour before lowtide should see you being able to drive up the beach in 2wd, i do this towing a caravan up the beach there all the time.
the only soft sand you should encounter will be getting onto the barge and off the beach to Eurong, low tyre pressure and abit of right foot will see you through. you may also get some soft patches just after leaving the bitumin at Eurong (remember to disengage 4wd when get on the bitumin here), but the hills are boarded so shouldn't be a big problem unless super soft, low tyre pressure will be the key once again.
only sand tracks on fraser (exception is hook point inland track which is a corrogated road base like track). if you can afford a set of Maxtrax, i'd highly recommend them.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:38

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 19:38
Unless you've got a very good reason to camp at Central, I'd give it a miss and camp on the beach. Do Central as a day trip. Too many mossies and backpacker groups for my liking.

The Hilux will be fine on any of the tracks. As others have said, the secret is tyre pressures. 20psi is a good start, and be prepared to go lower if needed. Take a compressor....

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Reply By: Member - Geoff the chef (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:37

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:37
hi Scott,
we spent 3 weeks on fraser in october in a 18 ft pop top.Used the manta ray barge from inskip point. I let all tyres down to 16 psi in the parking area beforethe beach.It was 2hrs before low tide when we got to Fraser. It was a bit soft getting around hook point but had no trouible.
As far as central Station goes, I agree with the others about it being crowded,mossies and backpackers. Give it a miss because the tracks are rough and when you want to go places you end up like a milk shake.
Best place to camp in MHO would be on the beach just north of cathedral shops.
cheers,
Geoff
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Reply By: scottyboy - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:52

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:52
Everyone - thankyou so much for your replies. This has given me the confidence to give it a go - thankyou for the great suggestions.

The main reason we wanted to go to Central is that we have a 5 yr old and as having not been to fraser before wanted a fenced location becuase of dingoes. Do you guys think this is wise? Are there any other fenced locations that might be better?

I am off today to go and get an air compressor and guage! I have a lend of recovery kit.

Thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 14:07

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 14:07
Make sure you know the correct (=safe) way to use the recovery gear, especially snatch strap.

Val.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 15:35

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 15:35
Re the dingos , as long as you are aware of them and do NOT encourage them into /near your camp there is no need to worry about a fence ,,, Dont feed them ! Dont call them ! [here pretty puppy,here pretty puppy ] and have all food stuffs in very secure containers [ have seen a Fraser dingo open a evercool fridge ] , and the most important re the dingos is to Secure your rubbish as well.
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Reply By: rumpig - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:16

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:16
Re: Dingos on Fraser

do this strange thing called supervising your child and you won't have a problem. this year we had in our group of campers on fraser, oldest kid was 5 years old X 2 of, 4 year old X 1 of, 2 yr olds X 2 of, 1 yr old X 1 of and our youngest child who was 9 months old aswell as friends with a 6 month old baby. we always camp on the beach up around cathedral shops somewhere.
we've all been taking our kids there since they were all babies and never had a problem with dingos. if your really that concerned then maybe look at camping at Dundaburra instead which is fully fenced just like central station is, also has toilets and showers. entry to this campsite can get soft in places, but once again 16 - 18 psi in your tyres will see you through no worries.
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Reply By: scottyboy - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 23:18

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 23:18
We are heading to Fraser tomorrow - I will let you know how we go!
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Reply By: scottyboy - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:30

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:30
We are back! We stayed for 7 nights. Brilliant time!

We ended up camping on the beach at Poyungan camping area near Rainbow Gorge.

Thanks for all your help - it really steered our trip in the right direction. We got stuck once - at inskip right before the barge !! But we got out ourselves and didnt have any more problems. Probably becasue I just wasnt used to driving in sand.

Couple of things,
We didnt have anyone in sight - except one night a troupe of backpackers pulled up and decided to camp right beside us !! we just politly said we are not interested in noise and there are heaps of secluded camp sites up the track - ha so they moved on and never saw them again!

re Dingoes - saw a tamish one in the carpark at Lake Makenzie and one on the beach at night with a tourch and one early morning hanging around our site.

We where goign to go to hervey bay barge on way home but i was not confident taking the trailer through inland. The first 3 klms from Eurong where very rough and soft!! So I decided to leave the trailer for the beach!

We stopped in at Central station and talked to some campers. It was very nice and hardly anyone there - the campers said it was very quite the whole trip - so i probably wouldnt mind staying there in the off peak if you like rainforest camping.

Yep backpackers everywhere.. but I suppose it keeps the shops going.

All in all - an amazing place - we will be going back!! Thanks to everyone for your ideas.

Here are a few photos.
View from our campsite


Kids at Lake Mackenzie


Campsite




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