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Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:40
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Qld corrections had Hummers , anyone know what happened to them , reason being that there was an article about the treatment that Brendan Abbott now receives in today's paper , and seem to remember that hummers were in use to patrol the perimeter on the occasion of his last escape ,not that I condone Abbotts crimes but the bloke is now totaly censored.
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Reply By: stefan & 12 times Dakar winner - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:41

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:41
hummers are 4WD..........so you are SWEET AS BRO :)
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:14

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:14
Hahahahahaha
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:05

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:05
Corrective Services Minister Tony McGrady recently announced that
the department?s Hummers would soon be replaced with 11 new personnel protective vehicles.
Mr McGrady said nine new vehicles would be made available for perimeter security functions at Queensland?s 10 secure prisons, with Wolston and Brisbane Women?s correctional centres to share a vehicle. ?The annual lease cost of the new vehicles is expected to be $282,700, and that?s an annual saving of more than half a million dollars,? Mr McGrady said.
A vehicle prototype built to Queensland Government specifications
will be ready by June 2004. The new vehicle code-named "Schwarzenegger" is based on the Isuzu Raider, sold in Australia as the Jackaroo. The vehicle will have 15mm armour plating and a specially designed hybrid engine to drastically cut greenhouse emissions.
Mr McGrady praised the role that the Hummers carried out and welcomed their future use as support vehicles for the upcoming Camel trophy to be conducted across Australia in October.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:08

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:08
"will be ready by June 2004"

Ummmmmmmmm ............ LOL

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Follow Up By: Lotzi - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:16

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:16
15 mm amour plate, bullet proof glass, blast proof floor........ me thinks super charged v6........... ok, they have been in the cupboard again.....
Wonder what the new mil spec Merc would cost?
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Reply By: Lotzi - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:10

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:10
Yep, they kept breaking down, they ended up sending them to Gov. Garage Geebung and they were hidden in the long grass.

From memory, after about 18 months they were sold buy tender as they couldn't be sold via normal auction.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:36

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:36
That is my understanding of the situation also.
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Follow Up By: kev.h - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:52

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 22:52
As they were armoured they could not be sold for personel use and had to be exported for military / security use or scrapped under supervision they didn't want them falling into the wrong hands only approved persons could tender
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:43

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:43
Friend went along to the auction and thought about a tender.
Didn't go cheap enough for him, he is a scrap metal dealer. :o)
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Reply By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 00:18

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 00:18
They would only need one as the "Hummer" as it is that big it would surround the prison without moving.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:50

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:50
"surround the prison without moving"...

That was their basic problem... they were such duds that they were rarely moving at all. Always breaking down and leaving the guards with no patrol vehicles at all. Crims loved 'em ;-/
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:47

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:47
The reality of what happened to those Hummers was this.
Qld CS bought them for security around the prisons, they were standard civilian trucks (flash interiors, seats etc).
They were converted to RHD by a mob in WA whose steering conversion is flagged by DOTARS as being of questionable standards.
I've personally seen two of these conversions break in the field in similar model Hummers.
To meet the QLD CS requirements they were then fitted with armour and other equipment which took them to (I suspect over) GVM.
They were then handed over to CS which started to use and abuse them. Of course handing such a vehicle to persons that were probably not trained in their correct use it didn't take long before there were mechanical failures and at least two total steering failures.(Remember that they are at GVM and way too heavy for the running gear.)
QLD CS went after the supplier who flicked it back to the mob that converted them to RHD and the legal merry go round started. Eventually they were sold as scrap minus the armour, with the VIN plates whose numbers were tagged by DOTARS as never to be registered in Oz again.
They were purchased by a mob in nth Qld and used as tourist vehicles on a private property and then sold and ended up in WA with at least one used again as tourist vehicles on the dunes nth of Perth. Not sure how you can flat top a vehicle to the dunes and then use it to carry paying passengers when it is unregistered?
The mob there has been trying to sell some of them but they want way too much for what are basically parts vehicles in Oz but could be reregistered in some overseas countries.
What they don't seem to realise is that the trucks are now 12 years old, have had a hard life, are not complete and can't be registered in Oz so there is a very limited market.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:55

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:55
How much "training in their correct use" do you need to drive around the perimeter fence of a prison???

The vehicles were duds from the outset and it can't all be blamed on the RHD conversion, although there's no question that that did cause significant problems..

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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:48

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:48
I suspect that what CS thought they were getting and were probably told they were getting was a civilian Humvee.
Problem is that apart from the actual basic body tub they are totally different vehicles.
As far as "training" goes you are not meant to jump them or drive through scrub like it is a tracked vehicle either. They weren't just driven around the perimeter track either.
Agreed though very much the wrong vehicle for the job.
There was a movie put up on the net years ago of what sort of treatment they were given, suffice to say that an APC would have been better.
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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:36

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:36
The RHD conversion could only have added to the problem.
The Hummers proved themselves troublesome in Iraq and any other theatre the US army used them in.

The engines were so unrelible that GM agreed to replace everyone that failed,regardless of how minor the fault,with a new crate engine.

This is partly why there is so many v8 diesels for sale on the world market.
GM sell them off at auctions after they have been repaired.

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