Cape York and Shockies

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:03
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Hi all,

Almost packed and prepared (truth benown still running around like a chook with it's head cut off) the one last thing I haven't done anything about is shockabsorbers. I still have the originals and still under new car warranty but after reading Andrew's post and his Cuiser's shocks needing replacing I'm considering some OME's. I was planning on taking spares but nothing fancy but now I feel a better quality shock might be in order since most track reports from people say that the roads are getting chopped up. What are peoples feelings on this?

TIA.....Leroy
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:25

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:25
Its always the last thing people think about!

How old are your shocks now? What condition are they in?

It would be a good idea to change them, keep the old ones, but then if you get new OME's or Konis etc, you would be advised against mixing and matching with your OEM shocks, meaning you would be better to buy 6 shocks, install 4 and keep 2 spares.

If your car is packed to the roof, are you still running standard Springs? Again You would be advised to put some heavier springs in there to save the shocks and your sanity...

Run your fully packed car over a weigh bridge, you will be suprised how heavy it is, and most people actually pack over the Max Weight for the car.. if you do and crash, insurance **can** legally say bye bye to you.. Just another thing to think about.

YMMV
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:55

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:55
The shocks are 2.5 y/o and appear fine. Actually I found the ride over corrugations around Flinders Rangers to be very comfortable compared to a GU Patrol I was with (and drove). But I knoe these corrugations are going to be nothing in comparison to up north.

Car not packed to the roof as I'm a fairly light camper but there is fuel, boat etc. so I'm not running std springs (ass would drag otherwise....)

Leroy
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Reply By: Member - Paul - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 15:29

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 15:29
Currently in Katherine after being in the Cape for past 6 weeks - I installed OME and the ARB suspension lift and never had any probs.

I have also decided that I like the ride so much that I would do the same in any 4WD even if I was not going away...
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Reply By: from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 16:14

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 16:14
Leroy just abuot every person that comes on one of our trips comes with standard gear as in shocks etc. The key to getting a good ride is tyre pressures let your tyres soften the ride . Depending on rubber and load on your truck and trailer you can let them rite down . I advise people on our trips depending on load and rubber the pressure I think , at first they are concerned about what I sugest but soon let them down on the way after a day or 2 . My truck a 60 with good year wranglers mtrs on I let the front down to 19 and rear to 26 . When hot they rise about 5 psi per wheel and to date no probs. Last trip I was talking to a fellow at wepia and he was complainig how bad the tracks were he was in a troopy . I asked what pressures he was running 50 psi rear and 45 front I suggested 24 front and 32 rear because of the load . He took it for a spin and thought it was coil sprug range rover it improved the ride so mutch.
All the best
Eric
www.capeyorkconnections.com.au
4wd Tag Along AdventuresCape York Connections
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 22:19

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 22:19
Hi Eric,

My feelings about the shocks are to drive to the conditions and tyre presures. I drove around Flinders Ranges starting on 35 then 30 then I went down to 25. The difference is amazing! Oh well I feel a little vindicated in my thoughts then. I didn't think it necessary to replace my standard shocks and either did my mech today when I quizzed him. He also said tyre presures and drive to the conditions.

Leroy
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Reply By: Mixo - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 17:28

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 17:28
Having done some bush travel but not of the extreme variety, could someone indicate to me what dodgy shockers do ?
I can appreciate that buggered shockers would permit untold wheel bounce, but if I was on a rough road and just tootling along, would I be aware of the fact that my shockers were on the way out ? The car before last was dancing a bit in the tail on dirt roads so I put OME's all round as a precaution, but can't say that I actually had a problem.
Gotta have red sand on those boots !
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Follow Up By: The Moose - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 14:00

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 14:00
Mixo
Shockies will generally deteriorate gradually over time so it is difficult to tell because you simply get used to the way the vehicle behaves. It's only after you put new ones on that you wonder how the hell you couldn't tell they were shot. The easiest way I know of (assuming there are no leaks) is to rock the rear of the vehicle from side to side when it's in the garage. When you let go it should quickly stop rocking. If it doesn't the shocks are probably buggered. For the front push down hard on the front on each side and once again it shouldn't continue bouncing up and down. This is much easier done if you're a big boy!
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 00:36

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 00:36
I would take an extra set of standard second hand shocks just for emergency and keep the standard shocks in the car you are using now....You will find some pretty fierce corrugations that will pound them around pretty bad....... I would buy the new shocks after you get back, which sounds crazy but thats my 10c worth........

No matter what shocks you have the corrugations will be awsome... Tyre pressures are important and correct speed, ( whatever that is because i didnt find it ).
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:53

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:53
Voxson,

I had the same backward thought....use the shocks I have now and they will probably need replacing apon return! The logical thing would be to have the new shocks now for the getter ride!
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 17:51

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 17:51
Voxson that magical speed is verey hard to find people say you have to sit on 80 ks . My truck seems to flatten out the corrugations at about 70 ks . Im not saying I sit on 70 every were , it depends on the track.
Just for the record I thought it was the least coruggatd this season .
Thats my opinion . Also early season is better than late.
All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 20:16

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 20:16
I can almost assure you that it wouldnt matter what shocker you had in for the trip because you wouldnt notice the difference.....
So save your new shocks for the nice bitumen roads and not too bad dirt roads for later trips........
I have 9 way adjustable shocks and it didnt matter a rats where the settings were. I drove my mates gq with standards in it and it was the same as mine..When the roads get past a certain degree of corrigated there is no help.... The only way you can make it better or worse is the way you drive it...
The only poof-teenth of difference i actually noticed was when i saw a corrigated incline and i sped up for it so i didnt have to be powering up the hill and that made it a little smoother...

And ERIC,,, yes....... I met a telstra bloke at Siesa who drives the roads each year and he also said that the bypass roads were a little better this year......_____________________________________________

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Reply By: Hero - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:30

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:30
Rough corrugated roads are torture for shocks as we all know, but what often gets overlooked is these polyurethane bushes in shock absorbers "they kill shocks" they rattle and shake the valves and do not give enough side to side freedom, for example on the rear of a Land Rover the top bush is under a lot of stress sideways and this causes the piston and rod to put more pressure on one side of the seals and bore and eventually lead to leakage.
The solution is to go back to good old rubber based bushes which have a lot more compliance and insulate the shock from unnessasary viabrations and movements.
Polyurethane is great anywhere else dont get me wrong. its just a bit of a wank and actually causes damage in shocks.

The smart suspension companies realised this some years ago, and some just have not learnt their lesson yet.
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Reply By: Leroy - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 23:13

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 23:13
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input. We'll see how I go and hopefully won't have any problems. And with track reports sounding not to bad, that's also a bonus!

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 23:34

Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 23:34
dont be fooled...... they are awful........... just not as bad as they have been...
i suffered from split fuel tank, broken gas line from filler on lpg, exhaust broke off, and i considered myself pretty lucky........
just be very prepared with stuff like fuel tank repair putty, tools and various fasteners,..........._____________________________________________

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