Crossing the Simpson Desert - Looking for travel partner

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 21:50
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3 Mature aged men from Melbourne, Builder, Electrician, Truckie, aged between 48 - 60, easy going blokes who prefer a beer to a chardonney looking for travel partner/s to cross the Simpson sometime between May 20 - June 15. Haven't decided which way travelling yet or exact dates. But will tighten dates up to a two week trip. Cant keep waiting for other mates to get wives permission.
Travelling in Nissan D40 2008 turbo diesel. Definately not into a tag-a-long tour scenario and dont want to organise a wagon train either. Been 4W Driving for 15 years, mostly high country and surrounding areas east of melb. Done Oonadatta track and Robe sand-dunes, but not much other sand driving.

If you interested drop us a line.

Cheers Warren
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Reply By: Member - Coyote (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 09:00

Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 09:00
sounds like you blokes don't need an escort.. especially in the D40 Patrol.. you will alsmost certianly coem across vehicles travelling both ways everyday if you are on the French Line...
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 16:12

Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 16:12
Don't sweat on finding some-one to cross with, once you are either at East or West side, you will have no trouble finding some like minded poeple to travel with.
I know of people cancelling thier trips because a travell partner pulled out at the last minute.
Like to sports wear ad says."JUST DO IT".
Shane
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Follow Up By: Member - warren G (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 18:17

Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 18:17
Shane, Coyote, thanks for response. Spoke to another bloke today who also said shouldnt have any probs crossing as one car.
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Reply By: rescue134 - Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 18:31

Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 18:31
Warren
back in July i went across with a mate in one patrol petrol, you will spend more time pulling off the track to let passing cars pass,do you have a hf radio? uhf is cernt requires.
if you want to have a chat about your trip let me know.
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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:43

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:43
Hi Warren
I intend to be cross the Simpson end May early June.
Last winter I talked to a Parks Ranger at Innamincka and he asked if I intended crossing the Simpson, my reply was as I was travelling by myself it would be prudent not to do it solo, he gave a bit of a laugh with your vehicle not a problem, 136 vehicles went through in one day last week, you will not be alone.
So I went Birdsville to Poepples Corner, as I did not have a flag I felt a trifle uncomfortable cresting dunes even with Ch10 on the UHF so turned down K1 line out to Warburton crossing.
My vehicle is a 2008 PopTop Troopy . I did hook up with a couple of vehicles for a while but they seemed to consider it a race where I wanted to take my time and appreciate the country so did not try to keep up after a short while.
Now if you guys are mature I must be almost vintage.
Check My Profile and if it suits send me an email
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Follow Up By: Member - warren G (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 19:43

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 19:43
hi russnic and every one else thanks for some very good feed back
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:24

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:24
Warren,

A solo vehicle crossing at that time of year should be OK. The tracks should not be chopped too much and the traffic light. A west/east crossing would be easier and you will have the Birdsville Pub and Big Red to look forward too at the end of the crossing.

Your biggest problem would be seen by other vehicles. A convey has a greater chance of being spotted.

Make sure that you have a sand flag, red is a popular colour but I have have seen all shapes, sizes and colours, just make sure it is high. When you do crest a dune have a look around for a glint of a windscreen or a flag.
The UHF radio, have it set on scan, not every vehicle will use Ch 10. Lower the tyre pressure, lock the hubs and have a good trip.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:52

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:52
With my limited experience crossing sand dunes a flag is a great safety item.
Mount it as far forward as possible as the first thing you will see of an approaching vehicle cresting a dune is the front diff followed by bull bars than a flag mounted to the bars, flags flown from roof racks are a way back past the front of a vehicle on a crest. Still better than nothing at least you can see oncoming traffic out across the flat bits.
Last trip I had accidentally bumped a button and when I thought I was on 10 the UHF had gone back to 40 , got a barrel from the leader of an oncoming tag along group for not being on 10, and goodness me I did not have a flag, anyway I had pulled over and let there entourage of Towny trucks pass, BMWs VW Lexus etc...., (Remuera Tractors in NZ) driven by the type of people that don't even wind the window down and say GIDDAY.
Next trip I will fly a flag, I have old CB aerials ,fishing rods etc. here at home but not so easy getting them in a plane to Brisbane.
Anybody got some ideas for a flag pole that I could pick up somewhere on the way.
If I wasn't so honest I could nick one off a Mines Toyota, but with my luck I would get caught anyway.
Just another thing to plan!
Cheers
Russ
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:12

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:12
Russ,

I think that a flag is just if not more important than a radio. Unless you are on the radio all the time a vehicle could approach with any radio transmission.

This is a photo of the Hay River Trip I did last year, I think that we stood out a bit.

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Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:58

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:58
No arguments at all there Wayne
But I would still try to stay on Ch10 next time, all it takes is for an approaching vehicle to be stopped before / behind the dune and you both approach at the same time, hear cresting dune coming loud and strong on the UHF, caution bells start ringing.
IMHO a lot is related to inexperience driving a 4WD, you don't have to be airborne at the crest, enough momentum to get up the slope and keep just enough momentum to get over the Ramp Over angle, get it right and cross the crest at about walking speed.
As I said I may have not have a lot of experience in the Simpson but I have been driving 4WD for almost 50 years, the first one was a 1956 series one Landrover, series 2 then 3, saw the light and bought a brand new 3 speed Landcruiser, been driving Landcruiser ever since.
Did my National Service as a Driver/Operator and still learning.
Cheers
Russ
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 15:09

Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 15:09
Russ,

Crossing a sand dune is an art in it self. Having the right tyre pressure and speed only comes with experience.

I would normally drive up the face of a dune in 1st high and almost stop or stop on the top of the dune to have a good look around.

With the UHF radios I have one radio on my convey channel and the other radio on scan. This way I should be able to pick up most vehicles in the area.

One other thing that I do is to run little fog lights. It is amazing how easy it is to pick up another vehicle that has lights on.

Wayne
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Reply By: wendys - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:58

Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:58
As others say, should be no issues at that time of year being a solo vehicle. We did Rig Road solo, few years back, French Line usually busier.
Might be an idea if you have HF radio or a Satphone. We belonged to VKS737 group and left a rough schedule with them in Alice, and checked in with them - from memory had no problems with reception in the Simpson. That gave us a greater sense of security as solo travellers.
When communicating with oncoming traffic, just double check they know what they are doing - we went west to east (Dalhousie to Birdville). Had traffic telling us they were going west - east as well - came SOooo close to head-on on dune crest, then the stupid woman says "I never can tell west from east". Obviously the others in that vehicle were not listening to her radio chatter, or they had problems too. Lesson - use place names, not directions!
Enjoy the desert. You are right to take your time, There is a surprising amount to look at, if you are into nature, and some great photography.
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