quad Bike... do i need 2wd or 4wd
Submitted: Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:16
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thinking of getting a quad bike for beach
sand dunes to make the trek to beach fishing spot easier
what should I get ...2 or 4 wd
its only going to be used to get fishing party's gear etc and esky to beach across the
sand dunes.
Room for a second person would be a bonus even if it meant a trip back to
camp get them. They can walk up the steeper dunes if needed. But a lift along
the beach would make it easier for them too.
Does any one on EO know if a 2wd quad would be easily suitable or should i just be prepared to save up for a 4wd. I dont want to have to dig out...ever!...just need to get to destination with out too much effort by man..the quad will have to do it all!
(dont need a racing Quad)
dont want to wreck the
sand dunes either
Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:27
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:27
Same principle as a car.....
You'll get to a lot more
places and less chance of bogging a 4WD
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:38
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:38
yes...that was my thinking..but do i really need one.....only those in know will know
a farmer once told me
"a 4wd just gets one deeper into trouble"..... "if one is not careful"...but not having heard the first bit why would I listen to the second?.....lol....found out the hard way
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Reply By: austastar - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:36
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:36
There is a guy near
Strahan who runs hire quads on the
Henty dunes. We went on one of his trips for the heck of it (way too controlled for me, but he had to play to the lowest denominator).
The bike I had was a 250cc 2wd Honda. It went
places I didn't even dream it would go. Up and down dune faces and though soft wind-blown sand.
His opinion was that 4wd was an unnecessary expense for what he was doing.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:41
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:41
My thinking is...
are they light enough and with the wider tyres at the rear do they have enough footprint to get thru?..maybe/matbe not, so hence my question?
thanks austastar..
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Follow Up By: ob - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:19
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:19
As ATV's run very low tyre pressures, typically 4-5 psi and generally weigh 250 -350kgs you would be pleasantly surprised where a 2WD will go. Even a 2WD will quite often go
places that a full sized 4WD car will not. Having said that of course a 4WD will go further before you bog. For general beach work 2WD will do.
Cheers ob
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Follow Up By: Mad Cowz (VIC) - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 14:33
Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 14:33
We have a Honda TRX 250 and it is small and light enough to go many
places, a long haul up a very steep dune might challenge it but I think that would trouble a 4wd one too.
Ours is mostly on farm tracks, paddocks and mud, lowering the tyre pressures is a must for maximum traction. In the case you have a second hand bike you'd need to check if the tyres have tubes or not, you can't run the pressures as low if there are tubes.
I have had bikes up to 400cc but it was so heavy that a bogging was quite an issue, the 250 i can lift out......
the best one Honda made was the old TRX 300, there was less plastic c__p to fall off and they were tough as nails, my next one will have to be the 420 I think as the 350 is out of production....
MC
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:39
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:39
Used a diesel quad extensively on our outback trips this year. 4x4 is the way to go. It's amazing just how much sand will slow the unit down. Our units (Arctic Cat 700cc diesel) are engineered for carrying two persons. If you're doing sand work of any description, go the 4x4 option. Even better if they can give you a hi-lo option and diff locks. Have a read
here and
here.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Porl - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:32
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:32
OMG that looks like soooooooo much fun.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:05
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:05
It sure does look like fun!
Those Arctic Cat's aren't cheap but in that situation I'll bet they are worth every cent!
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:22
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:22
They weren't to badly priced until this damn dollar dropped. They are great units and would go pretty much everywhere. There are some more clips of them in action trip on my vimeo site.
The hills are a lot steeper than they appear believe me!
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:16
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:16
Use an old Yamaha 350cc 4wd on our hunting trips. Pigs get into some very sloppy
places so the 4wd comes in handy. Suspect it would be similar for sand.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:08
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:08
Tis starting to look like a 4wd is the way to go...but they are so much more $$$
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:36
Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:36
I was lucky. It's a very 'agricultural' old beast and was a very good price.
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Reply By: MAVERICK(WA) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:47
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:47
as soon as you get a 2wd quad you will want a 4wd quad. save yourself the time and losses and get a 4wd quad to start with. and yes they are sooooo much fun and get sooooo many
places and provide soooo much enjoyment. rgds
ps even better when they are provided by your employer - sort of like a hire car - go
places no sane person would ever venture.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:18
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:18
now's there's a point
Who can come up with a good reason (for both the ATO and of course SWMBO) as to Why In The Hell Do I Need One To Fix Air-conditioners!?...my Boss (lol) can get one if I can justify the purpose...why havent i thought of this earlier instead of worrying about how loud swmbo was going yell at me if she ever found out how much they/it was costing.....
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:24
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:24
"ATO"
Aren't you chasing work in the mines?
Wouldn't it be perfect for remote site work on earth moving equipment?
Think how dangerous it would be to have some operator in a sealed cab without air conditioning just to get back to the workshop so you can help him!!
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:34
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:34
that convinces the ATO..what about a reason for swmbo
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 23:01
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 23:01
Mate, best of luck.
I said I had ideas, I never mentioned miracles!
Geoff
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Reply By: brentos - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:04
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 18:04
just buy a suzuki sierra :)
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:17
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:17
I spend every day repairing quads and chatting to farmers about them.If you go for 4wd,they require more effort to steer, weigh more and cost more.They will go further than a two wheel drive with the right rider.A two wheel drive is easier to steer, lighter, costs less and will go nearly anywhere.I have customers who have tried bigger 4wd bikes and couldnt go where their smaller 2wd would go.
Id go for a smaller, say 250 TRX honda, get some good tyres and run them about 2.5psi.You will go anywhere.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:35
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:35
thanks Nick...that bit of info will be remembered
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:51
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:51
Where do you stand on the legal front using an unregistered quad on public land? Most local councils issue permits for 4wd access on beaches and unreg are not allowed. Depends on where you are going to use it, nigh on impossible to get a quad registered except as "C" use by primary producers, councils etc.
Small 4wd like suzuki sierra might be the better/legal way to go.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 20:23
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 20:23
Peter,
I haven't had my quad for a few years now (WA) but had no problem getting it registered as an "Off Road Vehicle".
With a registered bike and a "Miners Right" you are entitled to "Fossick" on "Unallocated Crown Land" and the definition of "Fossicking" is very broad.
No1 - I'd go for the 4WD, the better ones you can switch the 4wd off when you want easier steering. And steer clear, which I'm sure you will, of the sports type quad. Get a Utility or farm type quad so you can carry heaps of gear (or fish hopefully).
Cheers
Alan
Heres the old boy, which I wish I still had, at
Well 33 Turnoff, best $9700 I ever spent. (sold for $7000)
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:39
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 21:39
the
sand dunes in question are on private land
long way for the authorities to walk from access points down the
cliff faces to
the beach...although there is always boat or chopper i guess
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Reply By: Member - Duane A (WA) - Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:57
Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:57
Mate ive got the 4x4 Honda Rincon we use it to tow the dinghy out of the
water and off
the beach they are great plenty of power and it fits on a custom built ramp on the draw bar on the camper the kids go exploring on it and when you do go for a bit of sight seeing on it you can ride with a beer they are automatic and thats a good thing ,go 4x4 and you wont be disapointed what ever make bike you get they are great add on if you can afford them good luck .
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:33
Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:33
Duane.
a couple of questions if i may
do you know
1) what is the weight of camper with quad
2) what is weight at hitch with quad
3) what and at hitch without quad
do you have any pics?...err yes a trackshack in your profile
this is starting to look better the more i look at this
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:35
Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:35
3)..should read..." what is weight at hitch without quad"
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Follow Up By: andoman - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 15:02
Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 15:02
mate i havent really looked at the weight factors too much but the fabrication work is very strong and its behind the effie and it doesnt slump her down too much i can send you some pics of the trailer draw bar under construction if you like just send me your email address send it to andooffshore@yahoo.com.au and ill tell you about a few other things some of mates did to even out the weight on the draw bar ok talk to you Duane.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:18
Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:18
Thanks Duane
email on its way
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 14:07
Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 14:07
Be careful riding them. A friend in the medical profession reckons they are called quads because that is what they make people ....
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