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Hi I own a Toyota Rav 4 ACA33 Manual, petrol,2006 {new Model]. I have looked up the Penrite site to see what engine oil to use but they only have Rav`s listed to 2006 [ older model]. Does anybody know what Penrite oil to use for ACA33 manual or can recommend another oil brand?
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Reply By: toyocrusa - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 20:58

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 20:58
Hi. If you have a look in the owners handbook,possibly under specifications or maintenance the oil spec should be shown. I think it should show 10/40 in which case it would be Penrite HPR 10, the same as the last few years petrol models. Regards, Bob.
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Follow Up By: campervan - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:12

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:12
Hi Bob, Just checked engine lube specs 20w-50 and 15w-40
API grade SL or Sm multigrade engine oil.
Thanks,Annette
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Follow Up By: toyocrusa - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:27

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:27
In that case HPR10 will be perfect for you.
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Follow Up By: campervan - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:33

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:33
Thanks muchly
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 22:19

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 22:19
Annette,
Have another look. In the Toyota manual, theres usually 3 options according to temperature. Nobody needs to use 20W50. The 15W40 is good for hot temps in northern Australia. For the rest of us a 10W30 or 5W30 seems to be the best option for a modern petrol motor, like your RAV.

The trend these days is to use thinner oils because modern engines use smaller oil channels and they lubricate quicker at startup. And you'll use a little less fuel with a the 5W30. I'm not a fan of Penrite oils - the viscosity when hot (the second number), is often thicker than the manufacturers recommendations.
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Reply By: campervan - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:10

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:10
Hi Bob,
Just checked engune lube and it says 20w-50 and 15w-40
API grade SL or SM multigrade engine oil.
Thanks,
Annette
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul W (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:15

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:15
use a 10 or 15w40/50 and not a 20w,too thick for a modern petrol engine.you will have problems with starting and oil pressure problems when cold with a 20w oil,a 10w40 will do the job,if you dont mind spending a bit extra use a semi-synthetic.cheers Paul
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Follow Up By: campervan - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:30

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:30
Thanks Paul
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Reply By: Robnicko - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 23:11

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 23:11
Campervan,
I have a 95 Landcruiser with the 4.5 petrol engine and have always used Penrite 30 (20w-60).
I have never had a problem and although it has a higher 'hot' rating I beleive this can only help the motor when it's under hotter extremes. I think the HPR15 semi synthetic would be fine. Why not send Penrite an email asking for reccomendations?

Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 21:49

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 21:49
20w60 sounds like sludge in a 1FZ-FE. Why use oil thats so thick?
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:06

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:06
Phil,
I have, as I said, always used it and never had a problem. I dont like the idea of changing to the HPR15 as it's semi synthetic as a friend whos an engine builder reccomended against changing after so long.

It's happy with the HPR30 so I'll leave it that way. 290000K and no problems yet (touch wood--hand goes to head)

Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:53

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:53
No worries Rob, but Penrite recommend HPR10 for your LandCruiser.
If you use a thick oil on a motor that was released 16 years ago, you're unlikely to get "problems", apart from poorer fuel consumption and increased wear on the top of the motor. I wouldn't touch thick stuff on a modern motor.
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) The O - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:13

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:13
If you can not find out what oil to use by yourself I think you should take your Rav 4 to a QUALIFIED person to get the work done.

There is a bit more to servicing a vehicle then just changing to oil and filter.

Have you thought about phoning Penrite and asking them instead of waiting a couple of days for a reply that may be incorrect.....



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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:50

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:50
Your reffering to the 2.4lt I believe Campervan.

Its the same basic engine as our runout 2006 Rav4 and we use 5-40 Shell helix Ultra which is a full synthetic oil.
Any of the good 5-30w are also ok.
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