98 GU 2.8TD Problem

Submitted: Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:18
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Hi, was wondering if anyone can help with my fault.
I've got a 98 GU 2.8TD Patrol ST, with about 190k on the clock. On occasion, when the engine is doing around 2000rpm or more, there is a rediculously loud engine noise coming from the engine bay. Car is also really down on power. Although I can still hear the turbo spinning. It's not blowing any smoke and there is no engine malfunction indicator displaying. When this problem is not occuring, the car runs fine, with no lack of power. I would say that this problem occurs about 50% of the time that I am driving. It is usually onset by stopping at lights and then taking off, or even first starting the car.

Any help would be greatly aprreciated, as I really don't want to go and start rebuilding pumps or the engine when it could just be a sensor or something as simple.

Cheers,
Rabs.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:26

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:26
Rabs,

I have an 02 GU III with the 3T/D. Does youre model have the Mass airflow sensor (MAF)? This has caused quite a few issues which sound similar to yours.

I'd also reccomend trying the Patrol 4x4 website as there is a lot of Patrol specific info to be had there.

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Follow Up By: Rabs101 - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:33

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:33
Thanks Mick,

Yeah mine does have a MAF sensor, I spoke to a family friend who is a mechanic, (Not Diesel) and thinks it could be a MAF problem. I really hope it is, One diesel mechanic told me I needed to rebuild the injector pump and to a complete rebuild and quoted me $11000 worth or work.
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Follow Up By: Goona - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 18:20

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 18:20
Rabs,

$11,000.00 for a pump rebuild. He is having a lend of you. Shop around. You can get an exchange one fitted for $1,100.00
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Reply By: Flywest - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:52

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:52
Another possibility - I had something similar in a 2.5 TD Triton.

Theres a wastegate control lever actuated by vacuum in the manifiold I think... it will look like a small baked bean tin with a metal rod going down to the turbo and a couple small vacuum tubes running in and out of it.

This thing has a rubber diafragm inside of it and when the vacuum increases too high it will open the wastegate on the turbo to avoid overboost.

What happens is with heat and age the rubber diagragm perishes and splits, and this allows the engine to overboost - it fels like your engine has gotten a heap more power...out of no where.

Now there sould also be an overboost releief valve somewhere, mines in the inlet manifold, ad when the wastegate control valve is perforated - the extra boost is dumped via this spring loaded pressure relife valve!

When it is operating - you hear a weird vibrating noise from under the bonnet...it soulds just like the old wood hot water heater pressure blow off valve...it sorta vibrates in a frequency like a loud humming noise.

Sometimes even oil will come out this boost pressure reliefe valve if you have pressure blow bye your rings.

So - how to test for this simple & easily rectifyable problem?

Usually it is easy to disconnect the straw thin black rubber hose where it enters your fuel pump, and suck on the end of it andwatch the connector rod that goes from the bottom of the small baked beans can down tothe turbo wastegate, and seeif the rod moves up and down as you suck & release the vacuum.

If it does - then the diafragm isnpt perforated and you have some other problem.

If theres no vacuum when you suck and you get air - and the rod connecting to the turbo wastegate doesn't move - then you need to replace that baked bean can turbo waste gate control can...due to perforated rubber diafragm.

Happened to the bitsamissing Triton at a simlar age / mileage to your vehicle by the sounds of it.

Ohh and by the way - you do that sucking test on the thin rubber hose - with the engine turned off!

When done just plug the hose back onto it's nipple on the fuel pump, and re secure the pressure clamp with pliers or a screw driver if you have the utilux screw clamp type.

God luck let us know if thats what you find.

Cheers
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Reply By: Gunna Do - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 16:26

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 16:26
Rabs101,

Try the Gurus on Patrol4x4.com there is a wealth of knowledge on all things about Patrols on that site.
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