Query on 3TD GU oil filters

Submitted: Friday, Aug 08, 2003 at 23:35
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Does anyone know if after market oil filters for the 2000 3lt TD gu's are available. I've tried my local auto shop for brands like Repo etc, but their manuals don't list the 3lt TDs. I'm currently buying the Nissan brand ones for $32, but for such a small paper filter, I feel that $32 is too much, considering that I could buy a metal oil filter for my old 6 cyclinder Skyline for about $7.
Any advice is greatly accepted.
Relaxed
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Reply By: sean - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 00:26

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 00:26
Ultra tune can supply them but I think they are more than the nissan ones. I had a 3 litre and this is one vehicle that should be kept stock for the fuel and air filters.

I dont see how the oil filter change could matter - but who knows??

Sean
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Reply By: Michael - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 09:11

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 09:11
Houdy there, I have a solution for you, Install a "bypass filter" as i have on my 4.2 Gu. Cost is $140 and change the element every 5000 ks, element cost is $5. It filters down to 1 micron instead of a spin-on at 20 microns, and change your oil at 20,000 to 40,000ks, and your spin-on at 40,000 or yearly. The bypass picks up absolutely everything and leaves you nissan spin on to pick up the loose nuts and bolts. Engine will last forever and bypass filters are especially good for vehicles that ingest a lot of dust , such as 4x4's. Hope this helps michael
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Follow Up By: David N. - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:44

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:44
Couldn't agree more...
Have been using bypass filters for 25 years and swear by them.
Here's a copy of one of my previous posts...

I have a '91 GQ TD42 on which I have a BYPASS FILTER (FRANZ)
By having a BYPASS FILTER you can greatly extend your oil AND fullflo FILTER change intervals.
Because the BYPASS FILTER is constantly cleaning the oil down to about 1 micron, the full flo FILTER and oil last much longer. I change my oil and fullflo FILTER only about once a year ) approx 20,000 klms or more and have had my oil checked (oil analysis) a number of times which in fact proved I could go a lot longer between oil changes- but I intenionally err on the safe side. I replace the BYPASS FILTER regularly- about every 2000 klms- element only costs about a dollar- and then the oil is topped up with about half a litre or so of fresh oil. This takes me about ten minutes to do, and I can do it on the side of the road or out bush no problem.
It sure beats crawling under the car to do a full oil and FILTER change, and it saves me money. Also the car gets a regular topup of additives because you add a bit of oil each time you change the BYPASS FILTER element (It is literally a good quality toilet roll!)
My son drives our old diesel gemini which has had the same FILTER setup since new- it 'sheading torwards 400,000 klms and has had roughly about five or six complete "oil changes " in it's life. (I've lost track of the exact number!) Engine is in perfect nick, uses NO oil and has factory spec compression etc. I have no doubt this engine will way outlast the rest of the car as rust is a constant battle in the 23 year old car, wheras the engine is perfect.
If your FILTER is horrible to change, at least this would mean you could do it a lot less often.
Here's their website in the US- I don't know who the local importer is now as once you buy them they last a lifetime- you just swap the FILTER from car to car... I've had mine for many many years.
http://www.weFILTERit.com/index.htm
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Follow Up By: David N. - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:49

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:49
Further to that...
Good "toilet paper " rolls for the Frantz are getting very difficult to find- most are the wrong size centre hole now- but you can buy specially made ones from filter suppliers for the princly sum of $2.50.
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Follow Up By: Michael - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:06

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:06
Hi David, i use a filter 2000 unit, the correct size filter housing is enourmous for 10 litres of sump ,so i use a frantz size unit, change mine every 2500k. you are really better of using the correct filter elements as they fit correctly. Works for me Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:42

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:42
Hi David, your post is accurate, i have posted similar comments , back some time ago. The thing about them is, you can actually save money if you manage them correctly and save a lot of wear. Most guys say that the will not keep their vehicle that long to be a problem. Sometimes circumstances change and find that they have had the vehicle much longer that they intended and end up having to sell it or replace the engine prematurely. Michael
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Reply By: Steve Mc - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:45

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:45
Michael where did you place the return line from your filter I know you can fit a T piece to your oil press sender for pickup just wondering as Im about to buy a new 4.2TDI think a filter might be the go. Cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: Michael - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:33

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:33
Hi Steve, i actually removed the turbo return pipe to the sump and silvered soldered a 1/4" barbed fitting to it, angled up towards the inner guard. It works well but i have since discovered a 1/4" plug in the return gallery, just in behind the alternator, down a few inches lower on the block, have a look, its failly obviously once you see it. My old 1999 4.2 gu had a bit of room around the oil sender, BUT my new intercooled is bloody crowded, how they remove the two spin -ons has got me beat. But you can install the tee piece with a bit of swearing i think, I am going to attack my new car next week. By-pass filters are the go for dusty conditions, there is no doubt. regards Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:46

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 14:46
Steve, you wont be dissapointed with the new 4.2. its awesome, leaves my 1999 4.2 t for dead. It took forever to run my old patrol in and perform well, This , one from new is a totally different animal, it really is like driving a petrol Patrol, except for the diesel clatter, you wouldn't know its a diesel, Enjoy Michael
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Reply By: Steve Mc - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 15:55

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 15:55
Thanks Michael, let us know how you go with that plug near the alt, would save a lot of time, where did you actually mount the filter itself , a place where u can get to it, not like the knuckle scraper originals. I see Baldwin make filters as well have you heard anything about them? All our previous patrols have been 4.2 diesels except the current one 2.8 GU has been a great car though. Was told at the time of purchase I will never see a 4.2 turbo 3 weeks later guess what?
I can relate to the running in & peformance our last one took 78,000ks to come good, basically a truck motor I suppose. Cheers Steve
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Reply By: relaxed QLD - Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 20:21

Saturday, Aug 09, 2003 at 20:21
Thanks for all the info fellows, I think the by-pass idea is a good one. I think I might sus out a few mechanics, (1) to find out if they know what there talking about and (2) how much they will charge me. But I think its the way to go.
Relaxed
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Follow Up By: Michael - Monday, Aug 11, 2003 at 15:57

Monday, Aug 11, 2003 at 15:57
Hi relaxed, My unit is a filter 2000 unit, the new owners are a company called Filter Technology, they are at Rutherford near Newcastle, NSW. look them up, all australian made, complete unit (car size) $140,, small tidy unit. Michael
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Reply By: David N. - Sunday, Aug 10, 2003 at 10:11

Sunday, Aug 10, 2003 at 10:11
For anybody interested....
My return goes through an add-on oil cooler, then back into the sump (I did not know about the bolt in the block for the return when i installed it many years ago.)
If anybody is after a Frantz , here's a copy of an email sent to me recently....

From Frantz in the USA
"Actually, I am in the process of trying to coordinate an order for several individuals. If you will please contact Gary Horton in regards to where you live and what you are needing, I am trying to get it all into one shipment to help with shipping expenses. Below is a cut n' paste for the information on contacting him."

And from Gary Horton
"My name is Gary Horton and touching base regarding the frantz filtration system
Deborah has asked me to contact you and to organize a filter system for you

if you could let me know for what vehicle(s) its intended for
where abouts you would like it shipped too etc

you can give me a buzz on 0400 266 044 or AH 02 4627 7830
or email me at garyandnella@dodo.com.au"
Hope this helps.
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Reply By: crfan - Monday, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:34

Monday, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:34
the part number for the ryco filter is r2593p but is about the same price as genuine,
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