Boat choice
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 09:28
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Member- Tony C
I wondered if anyone could help with some recommendations for a new boat.
For the past 6 years I have used a 4.8 m centre console which has been fine in the bay and offshore short range but is to big for inland river fishing.
Is there a boat out there that would cover both roles
well or is it to much of a compromise? Thoughts so far where a Quintrex Hornet or Stacer Nomad around 4m.
Cheers
Tony
Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:08
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:08
Tony
are you going to sell the 4.8 mt Centre Console ??
I go out fishing in a 6 mt Sports/fisher with 115 Hp, we go almost out of site of land on most occasions, as some of the reefs here are way off shore. The 6 mt is far too big for towing long distances,
Perth -
Darwin, so am interested in a 4.8 Centre Console with something like a 4 st Yamaha on a rear entry transom.
I would think anything under 4.8mt would be way too small for off shore fishing in safe mode.
We use a 4.8 mt Centre Console when in
Darwin, we go up the mangrove creeks after the Barra with-out problems and is fast enough to get back to the
boat ramp quickly when the weather turns.
I would have thought 4.8 mt would be a nice compromise ?
Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 14:42
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 14:42
Mainey
I will be selling my boat if I decide to go for a smaller boat that can fill both roles. Otherwise will keep it and buy a small tinny around 3.5m for use in inland rivers.
The majority of my fishing is inland now so it is hard to justify keeping the 4.8m . The 4.8 is a CDM design kit boat which are a WA company(self built)
Cheers
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Reply By: Flywest - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 15:21
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 15:21
Tony,
I worked as a fly fishing guide for maybe 10 years on inland waters - operating out of one of Phil Currans CDM 4.8 river runners, self built, and put thru commercial survey.
I doubt theres a better boat suited to both uses, (a little bot of outside work on a fine day and mostly rivers estuaries.
If you want a smaller boat you must be in creeks or something...maybe a 16 ft canadian canoe and keep the CDM for bigger waters.
Trust me that a hornet is no replacement for your CDM...
My 4.8 went to some pretty remote
places - tip of dirk hartog island among them.....best I know it is still plying the waters down at Walpole as a commercial charter vessel for bream fishing tours on the estuary and rivers down there for Mark Halse.
I got rid of
mine when I bought a larger 7.5 for offshore charter work...
Maybe you just leed a lightweight pressed tin punt for the creeks, and keep the CDM for the larger waterways estuaries and lakes etc ....not many boats measure up to CDM's - that much i know.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 18:47
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 18:47
Thanks for the reply Flywest.
My 4.8 is a different design to your river runner being the conventional style 15 deg v bottom . I am using it mainly in the Murray,Wakool and Edwards rivers and find I am restricted to areas with a good bank or ramp to launch and smaller boat would expand the areas I can fish greatly.
My needs have changed since building the boat 6 years ago.
I have been delighted with the CDM and wouldnt hesitate in building another smaller river runner if they where still available.
Cheers
Tony
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 15:25
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 15:25
Tony, I've owned both Qunitrex and Stacer boats. Both made by the same parent company (Telwater Marine) here on the
Gold Coast. Both reasonably good boats.
From what you say, you are not looking for a boat to use as a roof topper. I've tried to achieve what you are after in a roof topper boat. I now have a Sea Jay Angler 3.95. Quite a big boat for a roof topper. Deep and pretty wide and weighs 115 KG. I run a 30 HP 4 stroke Mercury on it (again a big heavy motor for a roof topper).
You will find it is all a compromise. The 3.95 Angler is great in the lakes and estuaries. It flies with the 30 HP on it. We do take it into the open sea, but only a couple of KM, and only on good days - even then you need to keep an eye out for those late afternoon storms that come up quickly. I rate my boat as an estuary boat that we occasionally take onto open
water when conditions are right (less than 10% open
water)
If you are prepared to restrict your open
water fishing as mentioned above, you can probably get away with a 4m boat. Just make sure it is a deep V hull (not a punt) and has plenty of depth and width. If you want to be a bit more adventurous or less restricted in the open
water, you need something at least as big as your current boat.
Many of the smaller boats have 1.6mm bottoms. I'd recommend you look for one with at least 2mm aluminium on the bottom (which
mine has). The other thing to look for in a small boat for some open
water use is the number of ribs and welded thwarts. Some of the boats around 4m and below compromise on ribs and bottom thickness and have riveted thwarts to reduce weight and cost.
If you are not looking for a roof topper, perhaps a better place for this question is:
Ausfish
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 19:47
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 19:47
Hello Norm.
Thanks for your helpfull reply.
I will have a look at the Ausfish site.
All along I have thought it was a compromise and is the reason for going to the 4.8 a few years back. When I started using the 4.8 I was mainly using the boat in Port Philip Bay and a couple of times a year to the Murray so the compromise worked
well.
I have now moved close to the Murray and about 80% of my use is there so I need to go for a smaller boat.
If one boat could have covered both uses it would have been good and was what I was hoping to achieve.
No intentions at this stage to use as a roof topper but that could be handy if we ever purchase a caravan.
I think what your saying about being to restricted in the open
water makes a lot of sense and probably the best approach is to run two boats when I can afford to.
Cheers
Tony
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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 20:50
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 20:50
Hi Tony.
Try looking at one of these, it is a 4.75 meter Sea Jay, it has 2 x 25 litre under floor fuel tanks, a full fishing deck, it has a console and it fishes 4 comfortably, and it is the same size as yours only a tinny with a 50 4 stroke Honda on the back.
Mine has been to Melville Island and back from
Darwin, but is great as a river and
billabong boat, easy to launch and retrieve.
I had my wife, son, sister and her 2
young ones in it yesterday and today easy.
To replace
mine now would cost $22.000 but worth every cent.
Here is some photos.
Cheers Steve.
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