solid state hard drive, size required to run mapping programs and price?

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 17:27
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Hi and a Merry Xmas to all.
I am keen to get a solid state hard drive and remote touch screen dash mounted to run a few map programs etc.

What size hard drive would i required? to run ozi explorer, nat maps, hema and perhaps a few others???

Have the solid state hard drives come down to a reasonable price yet?

Is there a good brand of solid state hard drive to consider?

Many thanks and i hope Santa found you where ever you are.
GN
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 17:57

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 17:57
First thing to check is does your laptop support an SSD? They need a modern chipset to provide support. My old Acer travelmate for example doesn't support SSD.

Look for about a 30GB drive. That should do the trick nicely, with plenty of room for growth. Will cost around $160 so not cheap.. A 64GB will go for around $300, a 128GB for around $500.

Good/bad brands? They haven't really been around long enough yet to form an opinion ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:08

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:08
Hi John
Thanks for info
So the cost isnt too bad then.
One mate sugested to find a lap top with a buggered screen as wont need the screen if running a remote touch screen????
Many Thanks GN
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 18:52

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 18:52
Good SSD's are the Single Level Cell (SLC) versions though their prices are much more expensive and capacities are less due to their cell structure.

I happen to have a 64Gb SAMSUNG SSD (high end version), worth about $1800+ apparently just to upgrade (fortunately cost me zilch :-)) running Oziexplorer with about 20Gb of maps no problems.

I would think that a 30Gb SSD would be suffice, as they don't need defragmenting to ensure better access to the data. They say most SSD's would outlive the useful life of the computer in most cases anyway, so it shouldn't matter too much which type are used. (i always buy the better one just in case :-))

They haven't come down in price as much as they could, though with the aussie dollar doing silly things, and the world the way it is at the moment, it would be hard to make a call as to where it is going. As it is still considered new technology (for the consumer) either prices should fall, and/or SSD sizes should increase.

Hope that helps

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 19:08

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 19:08
Why not buy an EEEPC Hardly Normal has them cheap this week.
They have a 9in screen with 160gig HDD for about $546.
One with a SSD is even cheaper and it gives you an all in one solution.
I have a 10in Medion that I got from Aldi and it goes fine.



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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:13

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:13
Hi Graham
Please pardon my lack of knowledge in this area but what is an EEE PC? and if a SSD is cheaper does it mean they are btter than a SSD?

Regards
GN
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:33

Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 22:33
Hey Graham

An EEEPC is a little ASUS laptop unit that dpoesnt have a CD/DVD drive and is perfect for mapping etc with screen sizes 7, 9 or 10inches

Sopme have the Hard Disk (HDD) and some have the Solid State Drive (SSD). I checked out the SSD units today at Officeworks and theyre 8 gig, Dell do a 16 gig one, no big enough for me with about 50 gig of maps...... So I went for the 9" screen 160gig HDD, just set it up and its a pearler!
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 00:02

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 00:02
When i checked prices last week the Asus were dearer than now so I bought a Medion from Aldi for 549
Has a 10 in screen 160gig Hdd a bluetooth dongle and a little case.
Has the same Atom chip as the EEE's Only downer is the battery life is less than the ASUS
Hooked it up to the touch screen I have in the Croozer and it goes fine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 08:03

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 08:03
Graham,
How do you power your Asus in the vehicle?

Toolman
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:51

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:51
Its a Medion and I use a Projecta CONVERTER to up the voltage from 12v to 19v.
You can buy them at Battery World or computer shops or Big W
Buy a 6000ma model anything smaller is no good (Ive tried a 3000 and it overheats).



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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:57

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:57
HI Graham
But you are still just running a std hard disk drive? or am i wrong?
I have met a couple of people who have had their hard drive stuff up while on the rough and so was hoping to get a SSD.

Regards GN
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 13:11

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 13:11
Yes its a standard HDD but as Im not going bushbashing it will be OK I intend to mount it in a mesh bag on the cargo barrier with some foam behind it so figure it wont get much worse knocks than usual. If you intend to hard mount it so there is no absorbtion of shock then perhaps u will need an SSD. Note book drives are fairly robust however.
I cant justify the price of a large SSD so I just backup frequently and pray a lot ROFL

Cheers



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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 14:26

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 14:26
Many Thanks Graham H
GN
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Reply By: Nic I (NSW) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 13:19

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 13:19
I have a Dell Mini-9 with a 16GB SSD, bought as a release special for $500.

It does the job perfectly. I have about 100GB of maps stored on several USB drives - I just plug the relevant area's drive into one of the 2 spare USB ports (the 3rd is for the GPS mouse receiver).

USB drives are getting very cheap, in the last week I've seen 8GB units at $14.95 - very cost-effective storage.
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 14:29

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 14:29
Hi Nic I
Seems like a pretty good idea to me.
Many thanks
GN
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Reply By: Chaz - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 09:20

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 09:20
Hi GN,

I recently just finished building and installing my latest Car PC. It uses a 16Gb Sandisk CF Card for the main HD. This gives me plenty of room for maps etc as the operating system and program files only use around 1.6Gb. I have converted all my maps down to .ozf files and they total around 5.5Gb for about 15Gb of maps. I also use a 32Gb USB Flashdrive to store music and video’s and still have about 10Gb free. This system has only been operating in my car for a few weeks, but so far has proven to be very stable and reliable. I’m not sure what sort of life to expect from a CF card, but they are getting cheaper and readily available as well as larger capacities. Another reason I went with a CF card was because of their reasonably high temperature tolerance. Some pics of my latest setup HERE

Cheers,
Chaz


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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:58

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:58
Hi Chaz
Great info thankyou, way over my head but will talk to my pc man.
What kind of $ are we looking at for your kind of set up?
Where is "Mobile computing solutions" based?

Regards GN
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 13:49

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 13:49
GN,
Unfortunately when buying from O/S we are at the mercy of our weak Ozzi $$, but I think if you didn’t want such an elaborate system, it still could be had for well under AU$1000. There are cheaper Monitors available than the Lilliput with similar features and you may not need the expensive HQCT Radio. You can buy Mini PC’s locally for under $600 and then get a good monitor for around $350. My basic setup would come close to $1400 without the Amp, GPS and a few other add on bits.

Have a look at CDT Technology http://www.cdt.com.au/index.asp and their Mini Computers, specifically the Jetway JBC200C91-230-B for $580. At the moment hard drives are still cheaper than SSD drives. They have barebones car PC’s for $690.
A car PC will be a bit more expensive, but it can do so much more than just a Navigation system. I run FreeDrive for voice instructed navigation and OziExplorer with maps. You could incorporate OBD engine diagnostics, reversing camera, TV, Radio, internet, email and the list just keeps going on. It can be just a navigation tool or a complete system, depending on how much you want to spend.

Mobile Computing Solutions is a top US based car PC specialist. I have been dealing with them for quite a few years now and have always been very happy with the service. They can supply some equipment that can be difficult to source elsewhere and delivery usually only takes a week to Australia. http://store.mo-co-so.com/

Good luck and all the best for the New Year,
Chaz
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 17:14

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 17:14
Hi again Chaz
Many thanks again for the info and the effort you have gone to to supply me all the info you have. It is very much appreciated.

Kind regards
GN
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