Sender Unit Placement on 6.5lt Chevy v8 Diesal

Submitted: Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 21:47
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Hi Guys
Was wondering if anyone has put sender units for oil pressure and oil gauges on their Chevy 6.5lt diesel V8.
Me and my mechanic are having trouble finding the exact position for them. We found the water temperature blank but would like to know exactly where the oil ones go. The blank we found for the oil that we where told about doesn't have enough space behind the air-conditioner compressors. Where I had the engine put in they are on holidays for another week. Any help would be appreciated.
Also would anybody know where to source a WORKSHOP manual for this engine.
Cheers Brian
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:17

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:17
Roachie will be along any minute now. If he doesn't know, no one does :-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:47

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:47
G/day Mick O,did you read the post on the cf18 waeco240/12v rectifier from yesterday?The frig plug goes into the rectifier which in turn plugs into the 240v outlet, allowing you to freeze the unit before you leave home,very handy item, check it out on waeco's web site.

regards Keith C
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:59

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 22:59
G'day Brian,
On mine, the oil pressure sender unit is mounted at the back of the valley, behind the intake. The water temp sender is just off to the side of it, on the passenger's side head.

I haven't fitted a oil pressure gauge, BUT, I did fit a warning buzzer to alert me to low oil pressure. All I did was to splice into the existing oil pressure wire, just above the pressure switch. The buzzer is mounted near the gear stick, but I have also fitted a momentary contact (OFF) switch, so I can isolate the buzzer while I glow the plugs and then for the few seconds it takes for the oil light to go off.

I do also have a oil temp gauge fitted........ but at the moment, I haven't fitted the sender unit in it's ideal position (the sump). Instead, I found a couple of threaded blind holes in the block. The one I used is just forward of the starter motor. I filled it with grease and screwed the VDO sender into it. The thread isn't exactly the same , but is good enough to hold it in place.

So, this gauge now reads the block temperature and closely mirrors the coolant temp as measured by the VDO gauge at the back of the head.

I have considered trying to get the centre of the sump plug drilled out and threaded to take the sender for the oil temp gauge, but can't be bothered at the moment. Another reason is that I have fitted a different type of sump plug with a tap arrangement (can't recall the name of it at the moment), so I'd have to get rid of that if I wanted to fit the sender in the original sump plug.

Cheers mate and hope it all goes well for you.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:33

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:33
Thanks Roachie,
Yeh we have been scratching our heads all afternoon about where to fit it. I will pass this informationon to the main man tomorrow. Thanks for all your feed back will have another look at it tomorrow. I'm lucky my mechanic is a relative and he's doing this over the holidays. Only had the chevy in a few weeks so its all new to us.
Cheers Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:36

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:36
Oh, forgot to mention that there is a Haynes Manual available. I have a copy and it covers GM and Ford diesel V8s. I can get the catalogue number for you if you like. It cost me about $90- through the local Repco store..... they had to order it in for me.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:42

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:42
Hi Roachie,
Yes would appreciate the number and is there one put out by GM.
Thanks Brian
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 07:10

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 07:10
Brian,
The Haynes techbook number is 10330, I got mine from the states for around $40 Aussie including post.

Will post some pics later on of my murphy gauge setup.

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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:49

Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 23:49
Hi Brian, I'm assuming you have fitted the engine yourself as I had mine done many years back by Brunswick Diesels who adapted all the instrumentation to the existing Troopy gauges. I also got a complimentary workshop manual on the chevy as part of the package. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 00:10

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 00:10
Hi Topcat,
Yes we had it done there but want extra gauges as with my troopy oil temp gauge is only a light. Am putting in 3 extra for peace of mind, oil temp, oil pressure and water temp. No we didn't get a manual with ours.
Cheers Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 08:20

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 08:20
Brian,

I'd also strongly recommend fitting a www.enginesaver.com.au as well. The temp gauge won't let you know if you lose all your coolant......

With regard to the oil pressure gauge, you should be able to use a T piece off the outlet I mentioned at the back/top of the motor, where the OE pressure switch (for the red dash light) is currently mounted.

When you say your "oil temp gauge is only a light", do you mean "pressure" instead of "temp"?

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 15:57

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 15:57
Hi Roachie,
The light I mentioned would be just your standard warning light that come with the vehicle. Like you I am putting in alot more gauges for safety.
Thanks for the info on the enginesaver, yeh they put one of these in when I got the engine installed.
Will take all this info to the brothers tomorrow and let you know how we go. Thanks for you information you have been a great help once again. We will be in SA April May at Murray Bridge for the National Steam Engine Preservation Rally. You have helped us out a bit in the last few months if you have time would like to meet.
Cheers Brian
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Reply By: Rockape - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 09:18

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 09:18
Brain, here are some photos, 2 oil pressure senders rear valley passenger side, water temp sender front passenger side head, a/cond overtemp cutout switch and water temp sender in the thermostat housing I made, murphy gauges with alarms. The original toyota senders hardly read due to the lower oil pressure and lower temp at the thermostat housing.My oil pressure is between 45 and 50 psi and water 180c. Hope you have an oil cooler fitted as these engines need it.Image Could Not Be FoundImage Could Not Be FoundImage Could Not Be FoundImage Could Not Be Found
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:22

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:22
Hopefully, you meant 180oF (not 180oC.... hahaha).....

In the first photo, there is a small black plate just above/right of the oil pressure sender/s. On my Patrol/Chev, the water temp sender is mounted on/in that plate. So, the temp I'm registering is (I would imagine), at the hottest point of the motor, maybe?

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:07

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:07
Roachie,
I never thought I would get my Fsssss and Cssssss mixed up.

Some pills make you larger and some pills make you small but the ones mother gives you don't do anything at all.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 15:38

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 15:38
Hi Rockape,
Thanks for all your information and photos great help. Yes I have an oil cooler fitted and are using VDO gauges. Needed a pod like yours minds a 2000 and didn't come with it. Have made my own gauge pod and once all this work is done will upload some photos.
Thanks again Brian
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 18:09

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 18:09
Brian,
will look forward to seeing your photos
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Reply By: mechpete - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 21:27

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 21:27
we ran 6.5lts in our fleet of ambulances in rural ambulance victoria and they had external oil coolers standard equipment and never had oil issues ,every other sought of problem though ! put an external cooler on it an forget about it
mechpete .
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 21:41

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 21:41
Pete,

I've read before that the ambo's that had the 6.5's used to have various issues.

It is my theory that the type of usage an ambulance would experience is not ideal for such a large lump of motor... probably not real good for ANY engine really.

I would imagine that an ambulance cannot be expected to be started, idled for a few minutes and then driven off rather sedately for a further 5 minutes or so until everything is half-warm....

That is how I drive my rig. I wouldn't even dream of taking off in it for at least 1 or 2 minutes after starting it up.... and once I do, I take it VERY easy. In my mind these are a truck motor; not a race car motor.

Cheers

Roachie
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