The Bogans got the better of us.

JIM. That would have been no fun at all. Never got into bikes at all - They are noisy buggers. Shame they had no respect to keep the noise down. Lucky we have not got a large poulation up this way, so not so much of a problem for us. Better luck next time Jim. Cheers Tony

Had similar morons in attendance at Copi Hollow last April. Glad I saw/heard them before booking in. Moved on to Kinchega instead.

Jim, where abouts were you camped?

Jim,

Helps if your around 150 kgs, half naked, wandering around the camp site with a full sized axe, arguing with trees, blades of grass, twigs, your eyes rolled into the back of your head.

Un-nerves the worst of them. They usually either move on or quieten down.
No one trusts a raving nutta.

Best one was at Lane Pool down south.
Doing the usual nutta act when my shorts dropped to my ankles.
I always 'free-ball' when camping, got rid of the bad campers and, unfortunately, some of the good ones also......sorry bout that.


Cheers......Lionel.

As a bike rider it pi^&es me off when cowboys out there give us a bad name with carpark racing. Im sorry they spoilt your holiday and im glad you don't put us bike riders all in the same basket. If there are campers where we go i do as you said idle out and idle back in making sure to keep a eye for kids. Up at Chichester state forest they have 2 camp spots on either side of creek Couchwood for non riders and frying pan for bikes riders works great. Did you approach them if i see bike riders giving us a bad name i will always say something to them most go all humble. Other wise when they close down my riding spots due to idiots i will feel like i did nothing to stop it. Cheers Tony

That is a shame; a beautiful spot ruined with noise. Perhaps there should be some rules for noisy bikes as there are for noisy generators!! My Honda E10 doesn't make half the noise yet I am not allowed to use it in national parks.

Nothing against bike riders but it is all about respecting other people; the same applies to noisy beefed up 4WD's, cars and bleep people around camp sites.

I find this situation very upsetting. I usually pack up and head off somewhere else.

To make things more complicated, my son loves his dirt bikes and so do his mates. They don't go out camping, but would certainly fit the same group and would probably behave like that.

Luckily they use our bush block and nearby bush..... still behave as described. Sigh.... I hate the sound and worry about the danger, not to mention the illegality. Come to think about it..... they seem to have not done much for the last year or so.... so maybe growing out of it?

I guess the real answer is to designate bike riding areas and let us quiet loving types know where they are.

I never go camping in peak periods if I can help it.

I sympathise.

*Poplars Reserve, Loch Valley, about 9 km north of Noojee. *


You should know better than that Jim,I've complained and Mike has stated in the past its an Idiots Playground..

Makes a mockery about the Anti-hooning Laws apply here doesn't it..

Yer right you hav to put yourself out because Rangers and Coppers are too lazy to right up a report ! I spoke to a Ranger about a month ago up near Bulltown on the Crooked River,Seem to come out when there is bugger all people about,maybe they like the peace and quiet of the bush too (off peak) lol

Hav a Good New Year


Cheers

We camped near a group of bikie type bikers years ago in the Grampians Jim. They weren't acting up or doing anything fearsome but they were about 30 metres from us in rather heavy bush and we felt uncomfortable. That afternoon we were cracking the stockwhip, learning some new devotees to the ancient art of whip cracking in the bush and over from the other camp came cries of... "Watch out, we are over here!!!" They thought we had guns and were taking a few pot shots.

Well we wandered over and showed them the source of the loud bangs and even gave them a quick lesson or two and they turned out to be great people! Funny thing how we preconceive things.

In your case Jim it wasn't the pre-conception, which as you say was a good one, more the actual bad behaviour. Shame that, there's yobbos all over the place even in hallowed 4b circles.

You should have gone WEST young Jimbo

Jimbo its very sad that there are inconsiderate campers in all areas of society...highlighted last year with the camping incident involving the 4WD club in Caloundra and the young family!

There is no reason why any VEHICLE activity should interrupt peoples camping...not just bikes, it just takes consideration. You should try camping at Wilblinga, Wedge, Lancellin, Rainbow Beach or Stockton and you will see thoughtless use of 4WDs and Hoons around family's and along swimming beaches.

It a shame that we are all tarred with the same brush when we enjoy our pastimes...I know Im one of those environmental vandals purely due to the fact I OWN a 4WD....oh times that by two...I also own a dirtbike too!

Having just started dirtbike riding here in WA, it is nearly impossible to find a safe venue to operate it. Every year they close down more of the acceptable and relatively safe (considering the activity) areas and push riders to over populate the open venues which makes it more dangerous.

Then the powers to be complain about riding close to residential areas or in closed areas...they create the problems by not having safe riding areas or opening up state forest.

If only everyone could be considerate for others, no matter what the activity..unfortunately its human nature and a sign of the times that people do not consider others and promotes the "buggar you attitude"

Sorry they spoiled your trip Jimbo, but its only going to happen more and more, unless our (societies) attitudes change or we lobby to INCREASE the available areas for our pastimes.

All the best.

Matt.