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Does anyone know how the new versions of Jayco Outback campers will take to places like the Mereenie Loop road. We have travelled on it with the car, but never had a caravan. We are looking at the Jayco as my wife has a damaged spine, and she likes the design of the Swan, as long as we have a good mattress. Three months travelling in a van for the first time means I will tend to get what Jen can be happy with. I still have three tents so can rough it when I want. Is independent suspension as important as having a Treg hitch. I have heard various comments supporting this and several to the opposite, so really don't know.

The Rev
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 21:42

Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 21:42
The Rev

I would not take any caravan on the Mereenie Loop road until it is bituminised. There has been some work done of late west of Hermannsburg but overall it is not a good road especially for towing. There are moves afoot to bituminese the road but it could be politicians rhetoric.

A Treg hitch or something alike gives better manouvreability than a ball and cap hitch. It may be a trad more difficult to line up when hitching but with practise it becomes an easy thing. A reversing camera is a plus.


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Follow Up By: The Rev - Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 21:55

Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 21:55
Thanks Willem

I know how bad the road is, and your comments support my wife's. I think I am just too hopeful, without the budget to go where I want when I want.

All the best and thanks for the info. This is a new endeavour for us, and until now have not found where to go for unbiased (ie we want to sell our product) advise.

Will look out for comments on Jayco reliability on bumpy roads before taking out a loan to get one.

Cheers

The Rev
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Follow Up By: Bearly - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:33

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:33
I have just spent the last 12 months travelling on the loop road usually three times a week and while it is a great trip I wouldnt tow anything around there. The road can be great like driving on glass after the grader has been through but I lost coult of the people I needed to give a hand when it was rough. Things fell of vehicles that you wouldnt think would give trouble but the most problems were in tyres and suspension which take a beating. Many trailers and campers had to be left by the roadside for days until a recovery could collect them. During my time I broke two Navaras on the road dur to the harsh suspension transfurring the shocks into the chassis. Both needed several cracks in the chassis welded before auction. Leave the trailer at Kings Creek or Alice Springs and stay in accommodation for a night, it will make for a much more pleasant trip,
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Reply By: Brian B (Brisbane) - Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 22:27

Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 22:27
Hi Rev,

Don't mean to be telling you how to suck eggs but will your wife with a back condition be able to manage getting into and out of bed in this style camper as you generally have to climb up to get into the bed areas in them.

Hope you find what you are after.
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Follow Up By: The Rev - Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 22:44

Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 at 22:44
Hi Brian
This was my big question. I was originally looking at a fold out camper, but she said no way. We looked at the Jayco Penguin and Golf Slipstream, and then Jen said that for three months she wanted more space and she loves the layout of this van. We are still looking and open to suggestions as to what to look at. We don't need to buy till after Easter. Maximum I loan think we could get would be 20 to 25G.

Thanks

Richard
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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 00:21

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 00:21
Hi The Rev

Our previous camper was a rather old wind up and fold out similar to the Jayco Dove. The new ones should wind up easier than ours did and no doubt it would be easier to slide out the beds than in ours. My husband has a bad back so i can understand Jen's reservations. Drawbacks in the camper included inconvenience of setting up and packing up each move, hard to wind up (even though we added a geared boat winch), not much room for storage, dust ingression, we had to unhitch to unfold the beds (both needed to be fully extended to access the van). The so called double beds were too small for us both the sleep comfortably, so we had one each, and the mattresses too thin for his bad back, and not enough clearance for a thick extra dense foam as we have now. It was when we were holidaying with this van that we saw our first Bushtracker and from then on for him it was a Bushtracker or nothing. Hence we had to wait until we could purchase our older model BT.

We travelled the Mereenie Loop in September and it was not too bad. We met travellers with a camper trailer (not an off road model) who had broken a spring. It took all day for them to get to King's Canyon with temporary fixes which did not last for long.

Recovery costs in the outback can be extreme, so you need to make sure your rig is up to the roads you choose, as well as looking after your lady's comfort needs.

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Follow Up By: perthburts - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:30

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:30
G'Day from the West,

We took an 'on-road' (with under-slung axle) Jayco Hawk on the Mereenie Loop in June 08. Hmmm, It was a rough trip. We just came off the Oodnadatta track a week or two earlier and were surprised how well maintained that was. We also travelled the Savannah Way in late July..... a cross between the good of the Oodnadatta track and the roughness of Mereenie Loop. We are a family of 6 M, D (40's), 11, 9, 7 & 5 year olds. Got to say, we were glad to see the back of the Loop. It's very doable, but it's a slow drive.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 13:44

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 13:44
Hi perthburts

We were lucky that the Loop wasn't in too bad a condition. The worst section was the Hermannsberg end. It ended up a slow trip for us, as after stopping part way along (as had another traveller) to help the people with the broken spring, both parties followed, stopping to secure the axle again each time it came down. The only alternative was for them to abandon the trailer, drive to Kings Canyon resort and secure resort accommodation, order the spring and wait. With the slow trip at least they had their camper with them. Travelling at 30 resulted in around our highest fuel consumption of the trip!

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Reply By: Member - Roscoe ET (QLD) - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:05

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:05
Hi The Rev,

Have you thought about an Offroad Penguin? Very easy to set up you just wind it up and it has an inner spring mattress.

My wife and I had one, toured all of WA/NT and had it on some pretty rough roads. We had no problems with it.

We found it to be very comfortable and plenty of room for us. I set it up with annexes on all sides with full walls attached to the front annex.

Also we found it very airy as all the sides can be opened to let the breeze in.
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Follow Up By: The Rev - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:24

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:24
Hi Roscoe

The Penguin was the second van we looked at. we both liked it, but I am a bit too long to fit on the bed for a comfortable nights sleep. For a short trip I could cope, but three months it would become too uncomfortable.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roscoe ET (QLD) - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 17:05

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 17:05
I'm 181cm and had no worries. You'll have the same problem with the Swan won't you? I thought the bed lengths were the same although I think the bed in the Swan is a bit wider than the Penguin.

Anyway whatever you decide on enjoy your travels.
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Reply By: ozjohn0 - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 11:28

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 11:28
REv.
Just remember the Jayco is an 'Out Back' not "Off Road".
It should handle most dirt roads without a problem if you drive to suit the conditions. i'e' Slow Down.
Unless you want to tackle the really 'Off Road" stuff then a Tregg Hitch is not required and a standard 50mm Ball Coupling or Hyland Hitch will probably be better suited and make fitting a WDH easier.
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Reply By: just goin - Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 19:20

Monday, Jan 05, 2009 at 19:20
Hey Rev.

Looked in to the jayco swan a couple of months ago with every intention of traveling for 12 months with the wife and 2 kids. The swan is very capable of going just about any where. All i can recomend is ask the dealer about the nomad kit for them. It offers a treg hitch, external gas bayonet, upgraded suspention and a few other goodies. Only found out about it cause the only one we could find avalible and ready to go at the time had it.

Cheers.
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Reply By: The Rev - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 23:38

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 23:38
Thanks everyone. Jen & I have taken a lot of time to think, research and pray about everything you have all said. Today we just signed up to order a new Jayco Penguin Outback, with the fittings we want.

We both are very excited to be taking this step. This will be our new mobile home. As we live in church rectory's we don't have our own space, so this will be it, even though it is not huge, it will be ours.

We have ordered one to be built with the wiring in place for solar power to be added as we can afford it.

Once again thank you all for the great advice and you all feel like friends, even though we have never met yet, so maybe we will meet along the wallaby.

God bless

the Rev
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