Replacing my V8 LC100 with a LC200 or LR D3.

Go try the D3. Quite roomy and the floor folds flat, a big plus. For my money I would choose the D3 but then for my money I'd more likely only be able to afford the badge. :-)

Easiest way is to get a brochure on them and compare specs or go to the website the specs are usually on there.
An ARB catalogue will give you what is available from them for each model
Just as an aside recently a friend of mine was offered $28,000 for his standard 2006 V8 as a trade on a 200 GXL or Sahara

Thats pretty good.
Ive had my 2005 100TD since Dec 2006 cost me $57,000 with 58,000km on it.
They seem to hold their price pretty good.
Have seen Sahara 200's for $96,000 recently

You could always trade in on a late 100 T/D if you are happy with the vehicle itself just not the motor

Hi Topend

Don't know your needs but if you are considering things like D3 and Prado it might be worth checking out the Pajero's.

They recently had a major diesel engine upgrade and have won 4X4's 4wd of the year , and you would have a hell of a lot of cash to buy accesories with.

How many passengers are you likely to carry ?

Get into the drivers seat and adjust for a comfortable long drive position, now hop in the back and see if your knees are tucked under your chin. Could you sit in the back seat for a long haul ?How much room is there in the back for baggage ? This might sort out which vehicle straight away without even thinking about service & reliability.
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Have a look in the tading post. 200LC $54 with around 40,000km. Olderish folk set up for touring and got sick. If you cant find it give me a holler i might be able .

Topend
my business partner about 6 months ago traded his v8 LC100 sahara in on a LC200 TD VX. although it cost him a bit of money, he reckons it the best thing since "sliced bread". tows his c/van around no probs.
when i got my D4D about 18 months ago, I looked @ the D3. great truck, drives great, but @ the time more expensive. if they had a bigger fuel tank(without moving the spare) I would have got it.
u might want to compare the room in the D4D & the LC200, not a big difference.
or u might want to wait until aug or sept 09 when the prado gets replaced. will be the same D4D, but more grunt, like they have done with the new pajero. body shape between kluger & LC200.
good luck Tom

When it comes to interior room.. the D3 wins hands down.


With all seats folded flat.. it is like a giant panel van inside.

Go have a look at one and ask the dealer to fold all the seats down. You will be surprised.

Then take it for a drive.. if you choose an air suspended model you be even more surprised!

We have a D3 and use it for our business.. and cart stock to the outback in it... It's cavenous!

Good luck with your deliberations.

Cheers

Mark T

Topend, just over a year ago, I had a short list of a D3 and the 200. Having had a LR before I was still nervous about the reliability issues.

I went down to ULR in Malvern and looked over the new Disco. I asked about the reliability and the sales guy confidently said that all the reliability issues had been fixed in the Disco 3. Just as he finished saying this, a flat bed tow truck pulled up outside the dealer with a D3 on the tray. The tow truck driver came in through the front door to reception which was about 20 feet away. As he come in he said "Got another dead one for ya, where do you want this one"

The sales guy said well MOST of the issues are ironed out. Then he prodeeded to tell me that they had fixed 350 odd issues from the last model. That gave me even less confidence.

That was that for me. True story.

The 200 is brilliant - once you get the clunk, oil use and stalling fixed under warranty anyway.

The disco is a brilliant vehicle but if you are anywhere outside the major cities and it spits the dummy you could be waiting weeks for parts. You only have to drive into small towns and past mining sites to see how many LC and Discos are around. LCs are like Holdens used to be , you can get parts from anywhere. Try fitting extra batteries in a Disco, I.ve got three under the bonnet of my 100 series.

There is a comparison between LC200 and D3 in the January Overlander. I went for the 76 Series LC myself and have not looked back great on fuel even when towing.

Hi Topend.

I have a TDV6 D3, 2007MY, which I have owned from new.

It has amongst other things an ARB deluxe winch bull bar, a Warne XP winch, a Kaymar rear bar, a spare wheel carrier, jerry can holder, second battery set-up and a rear draw system.

I have the HSE so it came with 18" alloys therefore I purchased a full set (6) of 17" steel wheels and run Coopers STT's for off road use.

With the amazing air-suspension I have never had to worry about suspension upgrades.

I have done about 92,000 k's in less than 2 years and can say that this is the best vehicle I have owned.

It also has terrific fuel economy - I average as low as 7.5-8lt/100km on the highway and when I went through the Simpson last year averaged about 13.5lt/100 fully loaded, door to door. Therefore I chose not to get the long range tank and to just use the rear jerry can holder - the only time I have needed extra fuel was when we crossed the desert and I just carried another 2 jerries - I found that this was easier than carrying the second spare on the roof for the entire trip.

The load-space is amazing - I can go from a true 7 seater (had 7 blokes on-board for a bucks weekend up to Dargo) to a 5 seater with generous (and flat) load space to a 2 seater with almost 2 metres of fully flat load space – all in a matter of moments. And when I am touring (including with 2 kids) I remove the rear 2 seats (takes about 20 mins, after done the first time) and then fit in a full size draw system.

This is the first Land Rover I have owned and the best car I have owned.

As to off road performance, I can tell you I have done a fair bit of four wheel driving, including Robe, the Vic high country and the Simpson desert and no obstacle has stopped this car yet (Big Red first go – hardest bit was dodging all the tojos reversing back down ;-) ).

IMHO – give this vehicle a test drive and you will never go back!

HTH.

Morning All, United Kingdom calling!!

Listen, saw a posting on our site here in the uk regards whether to buy a LR D3 or not.

I own one and in fact I own the highest mileaged D3 in the UK, having now done over 265,000 miles in just over 3 years, infact 3 years and 2 months to be exact.

I own a company that collects and delivers new sports cars / supercars throughout the UK and therefore it tows an enclosed single car transporter that is around 21ft long x 7 ft x 12ft high all day in wind, rain, showers and sun.

ALL that we have had is an ERG failure, this regulates the flow of engine ommissions, we have it services every 15,000 miles as required and its only just gone out of its UNLIMITED mileage warranty aorund 8 weeks ago.

I have collected and delivered all kinds of european/japaneese 4x4's and I can honestly say, the D3 is as anyone will tell yer "The best 4x4 by far"

As here he is!!

Hi Topend,

I looked at the whole range of vehicles mentioned in this thread when replacing my GU and to be honest, I don' think their is a dud amongst them. At the end of the day, you will be happy whatever way you go, there is more stress in making the decision than living with it!

I was very tempted by the D3 but ruled that out based on resale value. One can speculate that the D3 will have better resale than previous Discos, but I wasn't prepared to take that punt. The cruiser, like it or hate it, has proven high resale and if you are like many others with a lease, the last thing you want is a residual higher than the vehicle value.

Cheers

Captain

Toyota has been trading on is reputation for too long, the 100 AND 200 series are U-G-L-Y, bland, dull and boring, and has not contributed to any innovation. Nissan's much the same but cheaper.

I have a 2 yo D3 TDV6 SE and can't fault it, and can safely say that D3's out number LC200 in my regional town, hands down.

I consult to the mining industry and travel extensively and see more than my fair share of Jap 4wds broken-down on the side of the road, I don't really infer to much from this and would not make a purchase decision on this.

Yes mining companies use heavy duty Toyota's/Nissan's, but what about the running costs? I worked at sites where these vehicles have $160k/ per annum maintenance spent on them (Nippers vehicle) and are written off after 18-24 months due to the high maintenance cost and they are worn out. If they where such a great vehcile, surely they should last longer than 18 months?, would a D3 be better? I Don't know but with a 160k per annum maintenance bill, and a 18-24 month working life, it would not be to hard. (my mechanical engineer mate, works in a mine in the UK where they only uses defenders, they get a good 5-10 yrs out of their cars)

I was at a mine site (eastern states) recently where a patrol had been out of service for 2+1/2 weeks, because they could not get a replacement fan belt tensioner, in the end they had to get one from Perth, so much for spare parts availability

Not sure who complained about towing, I hired a 3.0t mini excavator for a weekend and had no trouble towing it and as normal I had to have the cruise control on, so I did not exceed the speed limit. As for reliability, I only have read about it being a problem, (mainly from people who's mate had heard something) and have had no problems.

Most of the anti D3 comments are normally just convenient points of view from Toyota/Nissan die hards, the D3 is the worlds most awarded 4wd ever, I noticed in one of the latest RACQ magagzine the D3 has just won the best all terrain Vehicle award for the 4th year in a row.

My previous cars have been jap 4wd's, I had no real alignments to any brand and made my decision after several test drives, car reviews and realistic feedback from owners. I purchased it because it offered the best value, fuel consumption, ergonomics space, 7 seat configuration and best ride both on road and off.

As for resale, (when they were first released) I read some magaizine that said that D3 should have a 50% value after 3yrs, a late model 05/06 SE TDV6 should then be selling for $37k, I have looked and I can't find a TDV6 SE for $36k. I tried to buy a cheap diesel and gave up, and purchased new

I think a fellow D3 member summed it up best, "some of us prefer more to life than macca's and instant coffee"