you engle lovers will love this one!

While getting ready for going away on Sunday we noticed that the deep cycle batt in the c/t was flat as a tack so charged her up and all was good...

Then, while camping at night we noticed that the lcd light in the kitchen would surge, then the error light on the waeco (cf50) started flashing, but hook the car up to the c/t and it would stop, then come good after being hooked up for a while, it ould also come on if one of the kids pressed the turbo button. the batt in the c/t was reading 12. something volts and same with the back, which was checked quite a few times.

Also the BIL's thermostat mucked up too (waeco cf50), saying it was 11 degrees but it was frozen on the inside.....he also had the FIL's waeco running too - one of the newer ones with the lid that opens up differently - its about a 40lt I think (it had the essential beers!!)

So 4 days of waeco dramas. Looks like ours could possibly be some connector thingy on the fridge that they had issues with in around the time we bought ours (over 3yrs ago)........as for the BIL he's testing his out over the next few days while still camping elsewhere and the driving has had time to charge things up - his 2nd batt was reading 11volts.......

So off to see if the bit will fix the job - also both our handles on the lid have broken off and are being replaced...!!LOL!!

Laura
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Reply By: Justin & Tracey (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 18:46

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 18:46
the old statement always comes back you get what u pay for. got 2 Engel's never had a drama in 14 years just my opinion hope they warranty them for u anyway happy camping
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:00

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:00
Quote "you get what u pay for"

Your kidding right?

Regards
David
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Follow Up By: Justin & Tracey (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:11

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:11
well wacoes are much cheaper than Engel's thought the statement was prity obvious
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:19

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:19
You're possibly right Dave. Often price has little to do with it. In many cases failure is due to poor quality standards & design.
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:04

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:04
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Couldn't help myself. Just had to get a chance to use this image sooner or later.
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:08

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:08
Mfewster that is pure GOLD, ROTFLMAO.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 00:31

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 00:31
without wanting to insult anyone, "ROTFLMAO" has to be one of the stupidest euphamisms in history.

Does anyone really "ROTFLMAO" or is it just another example of an "over-exaggeration"?

This is a comment in general and not aimed at "Top End Explorer Tours"
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 18:11

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 18:11
Hey fisho64

Nah I'm not insulted, but I am ROTFLMAO. LOL.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:02

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:02
Got to be unlucky to have that much trouble Laura with one brand of fridge over a trip but really no surprise given all those issues get covered on ExOz regularly. Waeco give excellent warranty & backup so should have no trouble getting them going soon not that that's any consolation with all the inconvenience.
Cheers Craig................
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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:09

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:09
plus a relo down the line works for waeco so all should be good
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:26

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 19:26
Laura ya poor bugga,

Trouble is following you at the moment!

My only solution is insurance and matches!!

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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:09

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:09
its certainly a thought I tell ya!! nothing but dramas since we sold the 80 series!!!!
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:50

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 20:50
Laura,

At a guess the problem with your Waeco is that your battery is stuffed after letting it sit flat for too long. The fact that it wouldn't operate in turbo mode suggests lack of power.

"12 something volts" Well, 12.8 is fully charged, 12.0 Suggests under 50% and in turbo it draws lots and would shut down with a less than half charged battery.

As for your BIL. I suggest he checks that the emergency switch hasn't been turned on by mistake. It overrides the electronics and runs the fridge full time regardless of the setting.

Cheers,

Jim.

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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:05

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:05
it was at 12.8 volts......
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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:08

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:08
but deep cycles are designed to be able to be fully discharged, charged back up and still work properly, thats why they are used, so its not stuffed.
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Follow Up By: Topcat (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:17

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:17
I hate to tell you mate that if you fully discharge a deep cycle battery every time you use it after recharging, you will not get much life out of it. It is better to discharge them no more then 50% then recharge. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:23

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:23
we dont fully discharge it every time it gets used, theres no chance of that happening, we dont sit in the one spot for over a week, the most is 4 days.

and Jim, it was doing it in the back of the car on the way home - being used off the 2nd batt in the car, so the trailer batt is NOT the prob.....
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:23

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:23
Laura - fully discharged in a 12V battery is about 12 Volts....sounds stange I know but there are a lot of stranger things about. A battery below 12 will still run some things eg the Waeco will run to about 10.8 but it ain't good for your battery nonetheless.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:28

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:28
Laura,
A wet cell battery that has been unknowingly "flattened" for a length of time on a camper trailer can take a week to recharge on a decent charger.

Was your 12.something volts measured while the battery was connected to the car?
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:29

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:29
Laura,

It is becomiing obvious to me that you are someone who doesn't listen. That is, if you don't hear what you would like to hear, you go deaf.

The point of this forum is to exchange advice, not simply hope that someone will confirm your thoughts.

One last thing, Deep Cycle Lead Acid Batteries are not like Ni Cad Batts that benefit from being flattened. It roots them.

I'll not bother you any more with help.

Jim.



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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:50

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:50
Hi Laura
- Phil G (SA) posted:
Laura,
A wet cell battery that has been unknowingly "flattened" for a length of time on a camper trailer can take a week to recharge on a decent charger"

A wet cell battery that has been left flat for a length of time MAY recharge to a certain extent , but even if it reaches fully charged volts [14.5v]its actual amp hr capacity may be severely reduced.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:59

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 21:59
Phil, it was tested while not connected to car.......

Jim, do as you please, it wont phase me nonetheless really, sorry, I will listen to anyone who is worth listening to. I was telling you that it did the same thing in the back of the car too as well as off the trailer battery - A DIFFERENT BATTERY!
pretty simple to guess that its not the battery causing the fault but then again, maybe you dont like being told something against what you originally thought....can go both ways you know. So please, do me a favour and do as you say - dont bother.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:14

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:14
Hey Laura

That Nissan of your's is cursed,lol lol, any thing that is attached to
it is doomed to fail, just calm down, take a deep breath and have
a cup of tea, and put your legs up and have a rest.

Cheers
Daza
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Follow Up By: Kiwi and Grenade - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:19

Wednesday, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:19
everything has been doomed since we sold that 80 series!! aaaar!!!!
dont worry, cuppa has been downed, feet are up and Ive taken a deep breath....for now! as for 2mrw..well, we'll see hey!
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:08

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:08
Bloody Waeco's

So after 14 months of use ours (cf 40) went on the blink. 'ERROR light kept on coming on and staying on and fridge not cooling.

So first things first...tap the great knowledge of this forum. Some of it very well intended but often misguided

'Your wiring is too thin'

'Your battery is stuffed'

'Yer getting the wrong volts reading'

'Switch on the emergency override switch'

Etc, etc.................................

So I thought, well, the little battery is 4 years old on the toy car so I will buy a new one.

Install new battery and spend ½ hour reprogramming the radio...lol

Hmmmmm........ERROR light still flashing

Check all the 6mm wiring, fuse and earth...all good.

Find authorised Waeco repairer on Internet and drive 250km there and back to drop fridge off

Collect fridge after 4 weeks.

Drive home

ERROR light flashing again

BUGGA!!!!!!!!

Take fridge back to repairer a couple of weeks later

Three more weeks go by.

Drive another 250km return

Repairer says " Waeco apologises for the inconvenience but they received a bad batch of Starter Cards from a supplier and that has been the fault all along. The first repair job also had a faulty card fitted....Sorreeeeee! There is no charge."

I would bloody think so!!!!

And what about my 500km worth of fuel?

It's not worth the argument

Waeco has been running fine again now, for the past 12 months

But I don't trust it..................................



Cheers

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Follow Up By: bruce - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:54

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:54
Our 50l Waeco is having similar problems to that being discussed....the light next to the one that it is set at blinks on and off ..ie , on setting 2 number 3 light blinks and so forth, it does this on 12v power and 240v power...switch to turbo mode and the error light blinks very slowly...fridge runs and works normally...rang Waeco tech and he had not heard of it before and told me to take it to authorised repairer....could be the top circuit board is faulty was the verdict without actually physically checking it as yet and a repair cost of $70 for the board and $40 to fit it....not so cheap after all is the Waeco....cheers
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Reply By: Wherehegon - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:30

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:30
Only had one issue with our 50L waeco, the thermister (spelling) bleep itself due to been spiked in an electrical storm (used by brother in law at the time wont be borrowing again due to other issues like raw meat/fish smell, and a big thankyou to the people who told me how to get rid of the smell), Was replaced under warranty luckily and no issues, runs 24/7 and used it at minus 14/16 in the high country in 30 plus heat, has been great, there back up service/warranty is fantastic, and if engle are so good why dont they offer 5 year warranty like waeco do ?? instead of there 3 years ??? WHG
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 10:40

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 10:40
"and if engle are so good why dont they offer 5 year warranty like waeco do ?? instead of there 3 years ???"

Marketing...

When Waeco have had numerous fridges running for 20+ years, come and tell us about it.
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 10:56

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 10:56
High there HG, just stirring, its like toyota, nissan // ford, holden, personally I wouldnt give a s h i t what brand it is as long as it keep the items cold and it does what its meant to do. I bought on price and warranty, will the waeco last the distance ??? spose I will find out, If I get 10 years out of it without any major issues Ill be happy. Most things dont seem to last much longer these days. WHG
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:04

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:04
just stirring eh! that's very naughty! lol!

that is all true... as long as the beer is cold!

I'm actually in the market for a fridge (can't borrow the in-laws all the time!) but want an 'end' opening one, which means I'll have to pay the extra for a 'steel' Engel, everything else seems to open side on now.

Cheers!
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 12:54

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 12:54
"and if engle are so good why dont they offer 5 year warranty like waeco do ?? instead of there 3 years ???"


Prob cos they dont need to offer a 5yr warranty carrot to sell Engels, people know they are gonna work for 20yrs or more.

I'd rather have a fridge with 12months warranty thats still gonna work outside of it.

waeco could have a 10yr warranty, but if its 10yrs of hassle whats the point?

I know people say theirs is fine etc etc, I actually have one of each, but the engel is better made, more reliable, and def uses less power.

Sure there are Engels that have played up, no manufacturing is flawless, but, If a poll was conducted thered be more happy engel owners than waeco.

So if anyone can set one up on here, lets have a poll.

Rgds

Ron
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Follow Up By: ingo57 - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 13:16

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 13:16
Why does Wanko need a error light??????

Engel dont need one!!!!!

lol.... love the Engel/Wanko debate
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 14:02

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 14:02
Hi there ingo57, at least with a warning light you can glance at it and it will grab your attention that some thing is wrong before its too late (hopefully) and you open up fridge to things been warm (off milk etc) instead of nice and cold or frozen. As I said I would have either fridge even looked at the bushman but at the time the price was write so grabbed the waeco. Like the usual story friends of friends grandmothers brothers son have all had waeco's engel's what ever and its the usual debate. We could or go on forever, even a mate of mine has an engel and had an issue with it, somthing minor but was a pain at the time, personally like all things luck of the draw and personal preference. As long as it does its job without causing you headaches that is the main thing. WHG
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Follow Up By: ingo57 - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 14:30

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 14:30
G'day WHG

Temperature gauge does the same thing.
You usually are standing in the same spot when either looking at a temp gauge or warning light which always seems to be flashing on wankos...just an observation.

All good mate, my beers are cold and I would gladly hand over a cold one to a Waeco owner In the bush If his warning light was flashing

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 15:55

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 15:55
Same here mate, fridge is always open to anyone as long as the favours returned if the other way round. Have a good one WHG
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 17:13

Thursday, Jan 08, 2009 at 17:13
Yawn....here we go again.......; )
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