HINO 616 AUTO WIDE CAB 2007

Submitted: Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:37
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G,DAY, WOULD ANY BODY REALLY KNOW HOW TO SOFTEN OUR SUSPENSION ? WE HAVE PAID OUT LARGE SUMS OF MONEY ONLY TO FIND OUT KNOW BODY HAS ANY IDEA ACCEPT THEY ARE HAPPY TO TAKE OUR $1500.00 PLUS AND THEN SAY I CAN;T DO ANY MORE,THE HINO IS DESIGNED TO CARRY 4500KG ,BUT OUR HITCH WEIGHT IS APPROX 650KG (5TH WHEELER ON (TORSION BAR). WE NOW HAVE POWERDOWN SHOCKS 3 WAY SETTING ON SOFT ,OUR SPRINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGED/REMOVED ETC WE HAVE ONLY A 3 LEAF SPRING SET ON THE REAR THAT HAS COLLAPSED WHEN I HITCH UP,ON TOP OF THAT I HAVE HAD 3 SPINAL OPERATIONS GO VERY WRONG ,SO NOW WE JUST SIT AND WASTE EVERY BLOODY DAY.YOUR HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
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Reply By: donk - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:59

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:59
Have you considered talking to someone like the airbag man

http://www.airbagman.com.au/

They might be able to add air springs to you existing softened leaf spring pack so that when you hitch the 5 wheel up it will support the additional weight but still give a acceptable ride when empty

By the way did you once have a Patrol & a Jayco van

Regards Don
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:05

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:05
Unfortunately you have chosen a light truck that will have limited options for improving the ride. Simply as you are sitting directly above the front axle you will feel the full impact of any bump. As the cab is quite compact it's unlikely you will be able to fit an air ride seat which is normally the best option to improve comfort for a cabover truck. At my work in the past they have had springs reset to allow more room to the bumpstop & fitted better shocks but no longer buy these smaller sized trucks if they are to be used on country roads. Have moved to the 500 series Isuzu with the taller cab which has the air ride seat option.
If your truck is lightly loaded all the time (well below the 4.5K capacity) possibly lighter springs may help but in your case when towing it sounds like you need more leaves. No doubt an air suspension system would be your best option to maintain a comfortable ride at any load but would be very expensive.
Companies like the 'Truck Whisperer' have had limited success in improving the ride & handling of our light trucks but again they will be another one happy to take your money with little gaurentee.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:16

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:16
CRAIG,
I HOPE I HAVE REPLIED CORRECTLY ? I HAVE STRATOS SUSPENSION SEATS COSTING $3500.00 THEY HAVEN'T REALLY ASSISTED ME OR MY WIFE MUCH.I AM NOT KNOCKING THIS BRAND OK .
HAVING HAD 3 SPINAL OPERATION AND ONLY 650KG LOAD WHEN HITCHED UP IT DOESN;T MAKE ANY REAL DIFFERENCE. DRIVING THIS LIGHT TRUCK ISN;T THE BEST RIDE ,BUT THE THE HINO BOOK STATES A CAR LIKE RIDE,THAT MUST BE A MISS PRINT. THANKS MATE FOR YOUR TIME.
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Reply By: WRVA - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:08

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:08
DONK,
THANKS FOR THE TIME,I KNOW BRETT THE AIRBAG MAN.YES YOU ARE 100% SPOT ON ABOUT MY NISSAN PATROL/JAYCO.MY PATROL HAD TWIN DRAW SYSTEM,HEAVY DUTY SPRINGS/POLY AIRBAGS AND I LOVED THAT UNIT ,I NEED A GOOD CLOUT SELLING THAT RIG AS IT WAS THE BEST EVER AND I MISS IT SO MUCH ,BUT THAT'S LIFE,WHO WAS THE FOOL THAT SAID LIFE WAS BETTER AFTER 40 , THAT WAS SOME TIME AGO.I AM MAKING DUMB MISTAKES TRUSTING PEOPLE. I TRUSTED THE SPINAL SURGEON HA ,WHAT A JOKE THAT WAS ,CHEERS MATE,PS DO WE KNOW EACH OTHER ??
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Sunday, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:48

Sunday, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:48
Don,
did you email me ?
WRVA
Steve
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Reply By: WRVA - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:17

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:17
DONK,
DID I REPLY CORRECTLY BEFORE ? WE MUST KNOW EACH OTHER ?
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Follow Up By: donk - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:44

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 19:44
Yes we do

We were beside you in tumut a few years ago when you had your heritage & we had a 23 foot heritage/patrol with swivel recliners & a pull out table i made

We also ran into you again in cootamundra (we were having lunch in the park) where you had a 23 foot sterling with a front lounge

We are in esperance wa at the moment ,where are you if you dont mind me asking

Regards Don
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:08

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:08
Don.
really good to hear from you.I know you were considering working in Coota for a while.
Currently Denise and I are visiting our Family in Palm Beach QLD then South ASAP I can;t handle this humid weather . I do hope you are both well .
I rode Speedway Solos in WA for a short period before my major accident preventing me from riding in England.Take care and and drop a line when you have time.
Steve & Denise.
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 20:24

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 20:24
WRVA

Just in case you are new to Internet Forums...........................

It is not the done thing to type in UPPER CASE. It is constituted as Shouting. That aside, it is quite difficult to read.

Sorry cannot help you with your spring problem suffice to say that you may look at some type of Air Suspension?


Cheers
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 23:59

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 23:59
Willem,
thanks for the advice re UPPER CASE,I wish that was my only problem.
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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 21:22

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 21:22
Stephen
What is the wheelbase of the Hino and what is the overhang.
It appears that the trailer needs to come forward to place moreload on the front axle.
If the overhang restricts you from doing this then people may shy away from the job.
4500K carrying is to be shared on both axles not all on the back axle.
What is the location of your hitch in relation to the back axle.
Ian


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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:53

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:53
Ian,
thank you for your time most appreciated.At this point I can't supply the wheelbase ,but we were forced to wait and have the Hino inspected by one of the top Hino blokes in QLD before we could carry out any further work.Hino agreed 100% our tray should have been cutdown much more than it was ,it has been done I think you might call it a Bobtail now ,but this has done nothing,We are thrown around the cab like rag dolls.Our hitch would be over the middle of the axle.We have been to many many experts NOT,but we did meet a very nice chap in NSW with a large Company ,he said he could improve the ride by moving our hitch foward, this just made things worse I think we then had 2000kg on the steer, doing this we had movement where we never had before in the 5th wheeler. This man was shocked after he weighed the rig he couldn't get over the lack of weight in the front of our van ,it's a rear kitchen. This has caused nothing but heated words with my wife and I every day.
Cheers
Steve.
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:15

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:15
Ian,
my profile will show you the hitch and end of tray if you have time.
Steve
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Reply By: balko - Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 23:44

Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 23:44
I had the same problem with my canter. Took the 8 leaf spring out and replaced it with a thinner 10 leaf spring and extended the springs by 120mm either end. works perfect now. i only did the front. Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:07

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 00:07
Is that you Member - Stephen H (NSW)?
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:05

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:05
Yep,
Hi ,how are things ?
Steve
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:13

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:13
Richard,
can you throw a little more info re ,is that you member Stephen H NSW ??
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 21:10

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 21:10
No not really I was just asking.

Thanks

Richard
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Reply By: steve robinson - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 13:59

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 13:59
Gidday
I just looked at the photo of your rig. My experience with semi's is that the fifth wheel is always placed slightly in front of center over the rear axle. It appears from the photo that it is behind the axle.
I would guess that it is acting like a lever and causing the front to lift rather than have positive weight over the front axle.
I have over time driven a lot of Cabovers and found them to be very comfortable.
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Follow Up By: WRVA - Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 21:51

Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 21:51
Steve,
thanks for your time, I have had this to just about every man and his dog.The front does hit hard most times,we have powerdown shocks on soft ,the rear just flicks.Thanks mate.
WRVA
Steve
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