She No Go..
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 20:41
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Truckster (Vic)
Well something odd happened today..
Drove out of the Nissan dealer, round the corner and the car just died in the ass... Like it ran out of fuel, so I pulled over, and threw it in to neutral, and revved it and it was fine! Like nothing wrong.
Looked at fuel guage, and it was above the MT line, its been below the MT line before and had no problems.
Now, I cruised to the servo and put 120ltrs (@88cpl wasnt bad) in the 147ltr tank...
Now its as flat as a tack, dead as the wife in bed, no power what so ever. When you put your slipper into it, all it wants to do is Kick down to go... When your between 2500-3000rpm, it seems to starve...
Anyone else come across this and how the fu*#&$$ did you fix it?
$^%$ken CARS..
Sounds like a pick up problem, but what can go wrong with them?? Could it be injectors? Not sure if its an air leak in the system maybe...???
I have a new fuel filter to put on tomorrow to see whats in the old one, but the one on there is tighter than a mozzies bum...
GQ TD42 with Turbo and $1000's of other goodies.
Reply By: brian - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 20:49
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 20:49
my guess contaminated fuel let us know.
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Reply By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:16
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:16
Spewin, sounds like a blockage in the fuel system mayby.
Belive it or not but i cut open my fuel filter looking for any bad signs when i change it.
Keep us informed !
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:21
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:21
Truckster,
Sounds like a blockage / restriction of some description, I would be looking for something sudden in nature, fuel filter, I wouldn't be looking at injectors, throttle cable maybe (titter titter). I fitted a peice of clear plastic hose on fuel return line so if I was looking for an air leak it would show there, and it's low pressure.
As you say it's something simple there's very little to go wrong with a diesel fuel would be my guess. If you take the fuel in line of and get the better half to operate the
hand pump (doesn't sound to good..........) you will get an idea of the fuel flow through the system, plus you will bleed the system. Keep the shiny side up
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Reply By: brian - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:22
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:22
Maybe the venerable patrol thought you were heading for the toyota dealership,lol,lol,lol
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:23
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:23
Rather head for the Lada dealer...
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Reply By: kezza - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:27
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:27
Truckster
Ill save you a heap of time - My bet is that its the tiny in line fuel filter at the fuel pump - make sure you find it and check it - usually gets overloked in most cases. The larger filters never clog that fast or so completly (unless very bad fuel)
(you may also notice that its blowing a lighter coloured smoke) Yes you are right -not a pickup problem or air as it will just stop altogether.
There is just very little that can go wrong with them.
Keen to hear if my guess is correct
Kes
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:35
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:35
Yea Ive been told of this mesh filter, thing is its not on all GQ Diesels :(
but yea know about it....
NFI on smoke...
*sigh*....
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Follow Up By: kezza - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:52
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:52
Yep heard the same thing -not on all Diesels - but couldnt find the problem and just kept pulling fuel lines off and eventually found one in a slight bell in the end of a fuel line (forget if it was in outlet or inlet to fuel pump)
If all else fails...........
kes
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Reply By: Willywags- Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:29
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:29
Sorry to hear about your troubles Truckster.
Maybe Willem will let you have a lend of the G60 while you are having the GQ fixed :-)Always going somewhere
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:57
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:57
Hey WW,
judging by your photo you look like you are using the wrong map datum with your GPS :-)Bob
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Follow Up By: Willywags- Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:08
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:08
What are you on about, Bob ?Always going somewhere
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 13:07
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 13:07
Willem, your photo has changed, but on the previous one it looked like your truck was in the middle of a big clump of spinifex (rather than on the track)Bob
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Follow Up By: Williewags- Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 17:51
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 17:51
Hi Bob,
Yes you are right. The previous photo was taken where there are no tracks in the middle of the
Simpson Desert somewhere. Photo taken July 1987 when we did a North/South Simpson crossing.
Cheers,
WillieAlways going somewhere
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 21:16
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 21:16
Pretty impressive. We came down the Colson last year - well formed track all the way but very unused due to permit issues. We crossed the Madigan line and could see some fresh tracks heading East West.Bob
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Reply By: Member - Bigbear - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:42
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:42
Truckster
Had a few fuel problems iin my GQ a while back.
As the tank is a large one it probably has a flat bottom and you have run the tank down pretty low so you may have picked up a bit dirt off the botom. I agree it is probably in the banjo filter at the injector pump.
Next time your tank is low amy be an idea to take the drain plug and see if you get any dirt.
You may have already thought of this but hey any ideas are a help at times like these.
Bush Bappo's 4WD Club
Get out there & have a look
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:01
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:01
Yea thanks for the ideas dude.
The tank has only been in 3-4 weeks got it second hand, had petrol in it, when I MT'ed it out there was nothin in it! Was very clean, which was scarey.
It came directly out of a car one day and into mine the next..
Thanks again..
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Reply By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:53
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:53
Something wrong with the 4.2 ???? can't be...
Should have got the 3.0tr....:-)
hehehe
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:02
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:02
Yea I'd love a motor that holes pistons, computers die, and falls apart... Mines only a fuel problem :)
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:05
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:05
didn't touch a nerve did I?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:40
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:40
Nope, not even in the game.
I love people defending their purchases...
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:46
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:46
"Yea I'd love a motor that holes pistons, computers die, and falls apart... Mines only a fuel problem :) "
YOUR NOT DEFENSIVE IN THE LEAST, Truckster! :-)
Anyway, If a piston blows or a computer dies OR YOU JUST KNOW WHY "SHE NO GO" , what's the diff...they have both stopped and aint go'n anywhere.
:-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:59
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:59
Its called laughin at other peoples stupidty....
Nothing to do with being defensive... In fact I would see it the other way desperatly trying to put mine down when theres nothing seriously wrong, probably a filter $25 and its happy.. When a shagged GU is $15,000..
Mine is still running. In fact it hasnt balked since driving home...
Sorry to throw a holed piston in ya works...
GAME OVER ...
INSERT COIN TO TRY AGAIN
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:08
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:08
Got that off your chest now? feeling better.?
2 x panadol and good nights rest. You'll feel better tomorrow.
And...umm.. I'm not trying to put down 4.2's. Just said you should have got a 3.0lt. Just like you said to me in post 6467.
So what your saying I'm saying to you..is exactly what you said to me
Inya Face big fella.
GAME OVER INSERT COIN TO TRY AGAIN.
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Follow Up By: diamond (bendigo) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:15
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:15
are we talking 3ltr rb30 here lol
eat the lot of you he he hegot over no fraser.
get on with life(more weekend fun)
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:19
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:19
Diamond...PLEASE please please...! RB30 V 3ltr
even truckster would be hard pressed to be with you on that one :-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:22
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:22
Thats your best comeback??? LMAO...
You should have got a 4.2, no need for Dtronics to make them go, No ECU problems, Air Flow Sensors.. No holes in Pistons, and many 4.2s with 500,000 on them untouched.. Many 3.0's with under 100,000 on them Lots touched infact REPLACED! :)
Amazing people complain about the price of the 4.2 then spend money making the 3.0 useful!
Cant you even think your own ending?
Diamond,
;-)~
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Follow Up By: diamond (bendigo) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:43
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:43
andrew andrew andrew.
dont knock it til you try it .
or have been whipped bye one :-))))
lol
got over no fraser.
get on with life(more weekend fun)
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Follow Up By: tristjo - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:37
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:37
GO THE MIGHTY RB30!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Bill- Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:56
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 21:56
Truckster, I'm surprised no-one has offered the obvious
solution already ... install ZD30. Stand back...!Regds
Bill
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:06
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:06
Give him SH*T Bill :-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:39
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:39
My GQ has 300,000 on it never rebuilt, compression test shows its still as new!
Now boys, how many did that last bleep box GU 3.0 get that blew up last week? Under 100,000... Under 90,000... OOps...
So keep going, I love a laugh!
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Follow Up By: Ray M (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:44
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:44
Mr Truckster can take anything you can throw at him. Many have tried, all have failed...Water off a ducks backHooroo
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:49
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:49
Play the game Ray
Don't just lay there and get kicked when your down! Pull a knife and stick it in
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Follow Up By: Ray M (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:54
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:54
Waste of time Andrew, you'll never rattle him...I know him.Hooroo
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:59
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:59
Hey let em go Ray theres more holes in their arguements than a GU motor!!!!
LMAO
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Reply By: Eric - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:04
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:04
Just a silly question for you . What did you get done at Nissan ?? it dosn't sound like fuel to me , it sounds like either your air intake is blocked or loose or something has come undone inside there ,
keep us posted
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Follow Up By: Eric - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:06
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:06
sorry mate forgot to add , if you have just had a service I would chech the fittings , make sure the clowns at Nissan fitted up fuel filter correctly , make sure they didnt forget the copper washers on the lins and that the injector lines are tight ,
good luck
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:56
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 22:56
Yea sorry Eric should have explained, I was only returning parts they back ordered from Japan, 5 weeks, then it was wrong, then they told me it was right we argued, they saw it my way...
Now only have to wait 5 weeks for part on Back order...
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Follow Up By: diamond (bendigo) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:12
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:12
damn electric mirrors.got over no fraser.
get on with life(more weekend fun)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:16
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003 at 23:16
BINGO
Apperently there is no seperate one for the Ti, with lectric mirrors...
So rip the old one out and see if I can bodge it up.
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Reply By: Eric - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:57
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:57
I would be checking injector pump
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:19
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:19
Ok, well I just changed old filter, and 21 layers of skin off my knuckle.
The old filter has HEAPS of shiat in it, and the thing on the bottom that warns you of water, had sludge on it??
Of course as I went to pour the diesel out of filter into old milk container to properly check it, a chunk of dirt fell in, so cant say for sure what was in the filter....
Dang, no holed pistons, or blocks, or ECU problems, $25 and fixed... :)
Will cut filter in 1/2 later and take some pics.
Thanks for help people anyway.
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 15:41
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 15:41
""Of course as I went to pour the diesel out of filter into old milk container to properly check it, a chunk of dirt fell in, so cant say for sure what was in the filter.... ""
Ah you make me laugh, how funny ! lol.
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Reply By: Mick - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 13:00
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 13:00
Hey truckster
Theres an inline filter on the inlet to the injector pump.
Undo the 17mm banjo bolt where the steel line goes in on top of the pump youll find some copper washers on the banjo bolt, dont drop them, a small spring the size of a pen spring down the hole. pick it out and youll find a small stainless mesh screen below it. Try to pick it out and youll find its probably got some junk in it.
Even though you might have solved it with a new filter clean the screen out and youll find a bit more response and power out of your donk.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 13:07
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 13:07
Hey Mick,
thanks for that, Was going to do that, but have job interview sarvo, and already have had 2 showers and still stink of Diesel!
Will sus it out tomorrow morning anyway, it cant hurt.. Would like to go a CAV filter setup when i have a spare $100 for the kit too..
Might even get new copper washers for the thing, cant hurt to change.
I'll do some photos and stuff of it too, so others can see.
The other thing is its not on every diesel GQ TD42 either, so can be a wild goose chase.
thanks again for the idea, it all helps... (Hoping the filter does it!)
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Reply By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 14:09
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 14:09
Well Truckster, I wont make a suggestion about your fuel problem. But usually when us girls are dead in bed, it means that we have got nothing in there beside us to get all reved up about, maybe you need to check your hoses as well. Maybe it needs a good blow out, what do ya reckon? Anyway apart from that, did you get a clip under the ear for your comment from your wife? lol.
Good luck with your fuel problem and your wife. COME ON GIRLS WE ARN'T GOING TO PUT UP WITH COMMENTS LIKE THAT ARE WE ????????????Kind Regards
Karen & Geoff
(Happy holidaying)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:23
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:23
Maybe it needs a good blow out,
Tell her not me... Cliip under the ear? Only get that when I tell lies
or she is reading over my shoulder... :)~
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Reply By: haze - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 17:42
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 17:42
Aw Gee Truckster, what rotten bad luck. And if it wasnt for all those nice things you have said about Landies you might have got some sympathy from me. But of course it is a "N", must only ever, ever be driven over red carpet!! So, ok, when was it last CORRECTLY serviced, ie did you see the filters actually taken off and changed, how do you know it has NOT been a drive her in the front, quick oil change, rub over with a rag and for big bucks you got your big service. Call me a cynic if you like but have seen it happen too many times. Any way, I suppose they are not tooo bad a unit, you just have to convince the ones who put reliability above whale like good looks!!
And just a brief comment on landies, I have had at least 1 (currently 2) in unbroken ownership since 1954 and NEVER been let down
on the road once. They may be a tractor with a shed on top, they may have copied the Jeep concept but they havent been bettered by any Jap copy.
haze 76LR diesel, 97 disco tdi, 97 hj75 100% reliable.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:21
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:21
And if it wasnt for all those nice things you have said about Landies you might have got some sympathy from me.
Carefactor = 0
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Reply By: Hardy - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 18:56
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 18:56
We checked a mates hilux for fuel problems by manual pumping the fuel while reving the engine. There was a marked improvement confirming our suspisions that fuel wasn't getting thru. Later found it to be a blocked filter. Just a quick and easy test Cheers Hardy
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 20:49
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 20:49
Gday Truckster
A few things to check b4 diving in...
see if taking off the fuel filler cap makes a difference, aswell as see if the primer will work when it is low on power - (see if it is stuck down meaning it is effected by suction).
This means the blockage is b4 the filter, and probably on the tank screen, which will save some time looking for cause.
Tell that 4b you were kidding about going to the Nissan sale yard, and that watching too much t/v will make the headlights go dim...lol
Andrewwheredayathinkwer mike?
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Reply By: Mick - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 23:26
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 at 23:26
Never happens to Toyotas. And did someone call that a big tank? How about 180l on a Prado?
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Follow Up By: tristjo - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:41
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:41
No. Tojo's don't get blocked filters.Toyota's just completely S%#t themselves.
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Follow Up By: tristjo - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:44
Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:44
Oh, and as for 180ltrs in the Prado...... It's so when the Prado drivers mate in the Landcruiser breaksdown, he has enough fuel to drive out to find a Nissan owner to rescue the poor misguided sod................
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Follow Up By: Mick - Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 23:16
Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 23:16
Guess you haven't got a Toyota tristjo. You've probably noticed that most 4wders drive them and the further you go "off road" the more you'll see them. Save your pennies - I know they cost a lot more than yours but they're worth it.
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