Cooper- New development tyre, waffle/matrix inside, no pressure.

Submitted: Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:25
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I saw a photo in a mag at the doctors surgery the other day.

It was taken at an American 4WD show. The photo showed a cut-away Cooper tyre. It had some sort of honeycomb design to support the tyre, instead of air pressure.


I think it said it had been developed for commercial use - probably mine sites - great for stake country ! Probably has a very low speed rating .

Does anybody have any info on this ?

Thanks,

Willie.

PS. I'm off to the Neil Young concert tomorrow night - can't wait to see him - what a star.
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:01

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:01
It sounds like you're talking about the Tweel, made by Michelin I believe.

It's been in the news for a while - 6 months maybe.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:24

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:24
So can you tell me anything about it ?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Respectfully- Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:00

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:00
Its the Tweel Willie, they've been around for a few years or more and recently Michelin have developed an offroad version. They vibrate a bit over 80kmh but for the more nefarious user, they can withstand a police spike strip.

Google it mate it makes for interesting reading.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:19

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:19
Your not reading his message.... He said Cooper, and he mentioned Honeycomb, the tweel is something entirely different.....my opinion and I accept the facts if I'm wrong.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:30

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Compare this to the Pic below

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:43

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:43
Doug - Posted article from Courier Mail Below. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Respectfully- Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 14:29

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 14:29
Yer Doug you're right I read the same article and thought it was the tweel, WOFO

This is the one that Willie was talking about



Resilient Technologies developed it. With COOPER yes Doug
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 00:22

Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 00:22
Looks the same to me, just a variation on the Tweel. But of course seppo's will tell everyone they invented it.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy- Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:18

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:18
Now all Cooper's need to do is design a tyre that doesn't fall apart and void the warranty when you go off the blacktop.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:24

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:24
Yes, I got sick of it and went to bridgestone 693s.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:45

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:45
Ive got a great set of those on my car :-) Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:10

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:10
Sir Willie

As stated above its a Tweel. This product is already in use in the construction business. The concept for 4x4's has been around for about 2 years now but Michelin still have to come up with a marketable product for them.

Trob;e witha non pnuematic tyre is that you wil have no pressure. Just a rigid though soft wheel. If you get bogged with that in sand there will be no way out but to dig....lol

Anyway, what is a young fella like you doing at the doctors surgery?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:09

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:09
Willem,
I thought I was pregnant. Thank God the test was negative !
Willie
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:38

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:38
yer, ya gotta watch it when the girl is on top!
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:46

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:46
Willem - Not a Tweel, see post below. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:08

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:08
Same principle
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 13:05

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 13:05
Yes same principal but not the answer to the above thread :-) True! Tony
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Reply By: Member - Peter S (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 08:45

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 08:45
willie

I'm going to see him next wednesday when he hits melb.....as you say "what a star''...carnt wait. Love to know what songs he does,and what you think of the concert.

cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 07:57

Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 07:57
Peter,

The concert was a dud . He is an angry, pathetic old man who fills concerts with people of 40 - 60 years old who loved his early music, then ignores them in his desire to play his quite boring music written since those times.

He HAS BEEN great, but unlike Joe Cocker, who came out here last year and performed the songs that made him great, Neil Young sang three from the Harvest / Rust Never Sleeps period, and ignored 80 % of his audience, for the balance of the concert.

Even when he was clapped back for an encore by the underwhelmed audience , he still refused to play any old songs. Can you believe he played some Beetles stuff.

In retrospect, I wish I had yelled out at the old fool, what I thought of his concert.

The night cost me $300, which I feel was totally wasted.

Willie.
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Reply By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:11

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:11
There is an Article about them & Coopers in todays Courier Mail in the Cars Section. Say they are looking at producing a consumer version. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:27

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:27
Scan of page - So you will not be able to read, just look at the pictures.

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Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 19:24

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 19:24
The only "waffle" technology involving Cooper Tires ......

is the wording of their warranty!


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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 08:12

Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 08:12
Doug T, Bonz and Tony B,

Thanks for your help guys. It looks like a very interesting concept.

I hate to think what a set of four might cost ! But they would be sooo good out amongst the stakes.

I will keep my eyes open for more info about them.

Cheers,

Willie.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 08:20

Sunday, Jan 25, 2009 at 08:20
PS

Maybe we can fill our tyres up with silicone - I just had this done to my van's jockey wheel and cannot believe how much it heavier it is now.

It would probably add 100 kg to the weight of a car tyre. I bet these new honeycomb style Coopers, would weigh a fair bit more than a normal pneumatic tyre too.

Willie.
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