Driving Lights

Ive got a set of Lightforce 170's and a set of IPF 900's and the IPF's don't get close to the lightforce lights (IMO obviously). The 240's are better again, and will be replacing the IPF's shortly.

At about $380 for the 240's and $340 for the 170's don't think they are that expensive.

I got the Narva 175 ultima combination for $110 dollars (on special) at autobarn. According to 4x4 Australia, they out perform the lightforce 170's. They are not as strong as the lightforce, but at only 1/3rd the cost I couldn't go past them. No problems so far.

Baza, if you have convinced yourself that . . . you have a bargin.

I have a bit of a problem when they test some lights, find the best, and then give them away as prizes . . . . hmmmm . . . I wonder.

Don't get me wrong here. Narva are a good light, as far as budget lights go. . . . but I can assure you, there is still plenty of doubt that Narvas are BETTER then lightforce's.

Each their own eh . . . .

Flappin again we think along same lines...

X Brand is best followed by 2 page full spread ad, and 1 pr of lights for prize IF you subscribe...

Forgive me for not believing ANYTHIN' written in mags anymore. The $$ is too mighty

How does another mag 2mths before test the same stuff and come up with the complete opposite?

YMMV.

I didn't say they were better, I haven't see the 2 side by side (except the picture in the mag). They certainly give a good light, I like them for the money - looked at the 2 and decided lightforce were not worth the extra $200. I have a lightforce 140 on my shotgun, and it performs well in that application, but I think it was a bit overpriced. (BTW it seems 4x4 are now giving away lightforce, not narva - maybe they changed their minds on narva, more likely the lightforce guys found a few surpluss lying around). Each to their own.

Geez Truckster, thats scary . . . . .

Baza, the Lightforce for shooting are recognised as the best around, and thats what they were originally building, then branched out into 4by lights.

As I said, to each there own. Granted . . . $350 for a set of spotties isn't cheap . . . until you use them . . . then you wonder why you bothered with the cheap ones at all.

If Narva is your budget, then by all means, knock your self out, they aren't bad.

As for giving them away, giving anything away for that matter. I have NO probs with that. Its the timing of the "Prize" whether there's ANY connection or not, is the issue.

I would suggest that what happens in most of these cases is that products ARE reviewed objectively and then the mag offers the manufacturer/supplier of the winning product the opportunity to have a co-located ad and even offer a prize - which most manufacturers will be keen to take up...

Thanks Geoff,

I'll run that past the big fella, and see how he reacts....

cheers

Lyn1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

Truckster,

I don't want to enter the debate but I have alwways wondered what the lightforce was like on rough or corrogated roads. It just seems to me that they vibrate/wobble a bit if you bump them with your hand and so I have always wondered whether theyu vibrate on the rough stuff?We have so little time to enjoy our land

Not sure on the 240's David, but I haven't had any probs with the 170's staying where you point em.

They give a little bit, but it helps them not break. Not bad offroad.

We do around 8 Night runs a yr, and wouldnt have anything different.
Had Rally 2000s on before and liked them, btu also had them above the bullbar.. The Rally 2000's come with a brace you are supposed to use on the top of them to stop movement.

Location makes a difference to the light too, roof bars are the best but limit you to never going in underground carparks, not that I can now!.

Again, its like tires, auto V man, Nissan over Yota, and bums, everyone has an opinion on whats best.

HID's if you are brainless and have 1000's to spend.. Thats insane amount of $ for a spotty..

Lyn, I assume they're not for the '27 Oldie. So what model cruiser?

I agree with Flappan above when he says the LightForce aren't that expensive. They are cheap compared to Hella at $360 for 1 light! KCs, IPF and Cibie are all around the $350 a pair mark, for the equivalent output lights. Of the cheappies, including the lesser spec Hella's and the like, the Narvas would have to be the best.

The Lightforce are also doing some clever things with the clip-on covers - like the dual driving/spot. They truly are almost unbrakeable. The only argument seems to be about the mounting. I may even get a set when I can afford it.

There was a thread on this argument a while back on

YahooSmile, you're on ExplorOz
Rohan (Sydney - on the QLD side of the Harbour Bridge)

When a Vehicle rolls over on them, and they continue to work . . . the mounting cant be too bad.

I've got the Combo lenses for mine, work a treat.

Hi Rohan...

A set of those on the '27..sensational..me holding a torch would be better than the lights on the poor Olds....:)

The cruiser is an 80 series..I've been doing a fair amount of surfing today, and the basic price for a pair of 240 Blitz Lightforce is around $400.00, I'm waiting for a couple of blokes to get back to me, but that seems reasonable to me....

Al was talking about the lights giving both width and spot, I'm not sure what that means...perhaps that's the Combos that Flappan is talking about

cheers

Lyn1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

$400 is about right. You might be able to knock a few bucks off $380 or so, but thats about right.

OK, what you do with the Lightforces is you add clip on lense covers. they come in the standard Spot light cover, Wide angle Cover, or what the call a combo cover. ie bit of both. Not sure on the prices of the covers (170's are $22) but its a cheap way of changing the spread of the light without changing the light itself. Also, The actually light can have its focus changed (ie like a mag light). Wind it in or out to produce a wider or longer beam. Its recommended though to screw them right in if on a rough road (and why the changable lenses are so good).

http://www.lightforce.net.au/driving.html

Have a look here.

Oh yeah, I'm not associated with Lightforce in any way shape or form. I'm very happy with their product, and also Aussie made, so if I'm happy with something, I recommend it.

Lyn, flappan just answered you before I could. The almost infinite variations you can get from the adjustable focus combined with the clip-on covers makes them really appealling.

Anyway, have you tried
Big Balls Offroad

They offered me about $40 off the stated retail price a while ago.

Smile, you're on ExplorOz
Rohan (Sydney - on the QLD side of the Harbour Bridge)

Rohan, with a name like Big Balls Offroad...I'll take a peek...

Lyn :)1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

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Liam at Bigballs is good to deal with, very good.

but couldnt match the price from Multispares when I tried..

YMMV

Anyone who works for a company called Big Balls has got to be good to work for...I want to ring them just to hear them answer the phone :)1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

have you and he been comparing notes??

Probably explained the glint in his eyes...:)1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

Bruce....what can I say, unrequited love..oh dear....

you're on a great side of the country, love it over there...[though not rapt in the footy teams :) ]

Al's a big fella 6ft 6", so I best not upset him...

Lyn 1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

He's definately bigger than you Bruce. In fact he's bigger than anyone in the whole wide world - he's my hero!"Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"

Wombat

Geez Wombie..I think you fancy him....what goes on in that shed when I'm not looking?1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

sounds like we have no chioce but to look up to Mr Al & stand with our backs to the wall around the wombats.
BTW there is only 2 states to be in WA &bleepLOL
not much of a football follower as long as empire eddies mob dont win in september i think rest of australia will be happy,hvaing read the other post the lightforce lights sound the go

Regarsd Bruce

My God Ive Been Bleeped
insert P*ssed where they bleeped me

Bruce..our love is never to be...'empire eddie' indeed..I"m crushed....1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

Mrs Al only has one eye Bruce
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Wombat

were abit one eyed over here to only we use it for lining up on the target empire eddie paints on him self & for that traitorous back stabbing winning coach they poached
HeHeHe

oh bruce...boo hooo....life's fickle...one minute you're wanting me to run off with you...the next you're hanging bleep e on me...

xx :)Laugh alot..life's too short not to....

the lad's "shed" !!!...or is that his castle?

Gday Mrs Al
refer to truckster post re Mr AL

bruce...xxxLaugh alot..life's too short not to....

the lad's "shed" !!!...or is that his castle?

Hey Bruce,

I believe that "traitorous back stabbing winning coach they poached" may have coached elsewhere at a REALLY good team before the Eagles poached him."Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"

Wombat

bruce...

tell him 'he's dreaming' really good team.....Woof Woof...wombie...Laugh alot..life's too short not to....

the lad's "shed" !!!...or is that his castle?

I'm beginning to blush now.....

Might just come and check your lights out Truckster...1927 Oldsmobile Tourer

Corrugations...what are they?

Wife leaves for work at 11.20am.. :)~

Rick...if you're serious about the lights..I will be getting some prices....

email me at grierson@hotkey.net.au

LynLaugh alot..life's too short not to....

the lad's "shed" !!!...or is that his castle?

Roly had 4000's and for some reason they fell apart on way to cape, if I remember someone stole part of them before he left..

Performane issues?

Strength and light?

I have owned Dozens of sets of lights inthe years.

I now own Lightforce 240's on my KZJ120 Prado

I have 2 x Combo Covers, and these with the 2 lightforce lights will be the last set of lights you buy.

They are strong, put out an unbeleivable amount of light, and the Combo light pattern is purely amazing. they really light up either side of the road and enough distance in front to see where you are going.

I have them (dodgy) mounted to my Plastic Bumper at the moment as a temp fix for the Cape York Trip and in all the corregations, had no issues with them breaking, falling off, or wobbling.

I like the breather kit, hot lights under water = condensation, but not with a lightforce.

I had them on my GU before the Prado , and they are a really good value for money, top products. Beat anything else hands down.

The bonus, Lightforce are An Australian Company. Lets Support OUR country and industry ;)

Steve
No affiliations etc. Just love their lights.