VW Beetle and 5th wheeler

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 00:49
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Im kind of amazed and stupified by this design.
It has some great ideas but let down by the weak roof mounted hitch.
Not sure how the the tail lights get their power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XL0TysIn0


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Reply By: timglobal - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:00

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:00
Not sure why the roof hitch is deemed weak?
Tail lights get their power from the cord seen connecting around the 1 minute mark.
An amusing ideas, which has some engineering merit over the rear hitch.
35 years ago, eh!
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Follow Up By: ross - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:59

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:59
The roof hitch is attached to the gutters. While it may hold in normal conditions, in an emergency I could see it separating from the roof.

I think it might work if you used a ute with a hitch fixed to a sturdy roll bar
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:20

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:20
Pretty good appication for parking but I think Ramp-over offroad might be a problem. Definitely a flat bitumen contraption.

If all of the weight was centred over the caravan wheels then the downward perssure on the roof rack would be minimal
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:58

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:58
Towed 1.5t with my 74 beetle on standard tow bar.
Beetle weighs 860 kg.
And had over 300kg on the roof racks, the roof structure is pretty strong, so don't see any major problems.
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Follow Up By: ross - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:00

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:00
Compare a standard hitch to the one in the video
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:08

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:08
Baahaahaa .....

What a great little unit.

As willem said ... the hitch weight would be minimal and not an issue ...

but I would be concerned about the effects caused by sudden braking - on a gutter mounted towbar ... even if electric brakes were fitted ...
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 19:06

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 19:06
OzTroopy
The VW roof is extraordinarily strong due to its shape, with trailer brakes fitted I could not see a problem, I have witnessed huge loads put on the bug roof (I was with VW aust for many years from 1968 - 1980)

The mount pictured seems to spread the load over about 30cm area of the gutter, which due to the strength, would seem fine to me.
Cheers Colin.

PS I don't think our various state laws here would see it that way however.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 19:09

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 19:09
A rear end shunt would however cause the car to be a "write off"
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 20:02

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 20:02
Hey OP & T

No arguements from me over the strength of a VW Beetle roof ... I was referring to the possible slippage of the clamps, under braking etc ... rather than the downward weight factors.

The video highlighted it to me when I realised that the starting position of the vehicle when connected, was at an angle to the caravan ...

As we all know its a lot easier to twist a trailer sideways by hand than what it is to pull or push it.

The initial inertia provided by the twisting action would reduce the strain compared to a standing start with vehicle and van in a line ahead formation.

All rather irrellevant in this day and age anyway because your right ... the rules, regulation and what if brigade would never allow it ... lol

Cheers
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Reply By: Dave B ( BHQ NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 21:07

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 21:07
I reckon on a day with a bit of wind, you would not have time to put your blinker on to change lanes.
You would be a mobile health hazard to other drivers I think.

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Reply By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:01

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:01
I love the way you can turn around to park the trailer.
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