Landcruiser 75 series OR Land Rover 110/130

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 19:52
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Whats the opinions guys?
ive read many reviews, but i trust your opinions more than anyones.
What are the Pros and Cons over these two?
Interested in both.
Thanks for your time
Bonz
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Reply By: furph - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 19:57

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 19:57
Bonz.
Are you looking at a trayback, troopy, wagon or something between?
furph
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Reply By: troopyman - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:12

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:12
The 75 parts are cheaper . They are more readily available . Accessories are abundant . Its the bread and butter 4wd of australia .
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:21

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:21
Bonzee,

Land Rover,

Pros,
Very economical turbo diesel
Basic with no frills
Light body (Aluminium)
Coil Springs all round with very good wheel articulation
Cons,
Parts could be hard to get in remote areas
Limited fuel that can be carried in tanks
Finish of the vehicle can be a problem.

75 Series,

Pros,
Very tough vehicle
6cyl diesel
After market fuel tanks can give the vehicle a good touring range
Very popular in the outback
Parts just about everywhere
Can carry a lot of weight

Cons,
Leaf springs all round
Very basic vehicle
Only 2 front doors

There are properly a lot of other pros and cons for both vehicles, but I use my Troopie as a tag a long tour vehicle and would not consider any thing other than a Troopie.

Just to answer on my previous reply about the turning circle and performance.
The 75 does not have a good turning circle but in the out back tight turns are not a big problem. They are slow off the mark and take a bit to stop, just like the good ship Queen Mary, but they will run all day with out too much fuss.

I will also add that I am bias towards the Troopie, just because they suit what I do and have a good image.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:25

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:25
OMG , i test drove a land rover 130 yeaqrs ago . It has the turning circle of the uss nimitz .
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:29

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:29
Another con for the Troopie, they don't like the dark and need a night light. :-))



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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:34

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:34
troopyman,

I did not know that you were that old, sounds like you drove a landrover 130 years ago and not a landrover 130, years ago. :-))


"OMG , i test drove a land rover 130 yeaqrs ago . It has the turning circle of the uss nimitz ."

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Follow Up By: troopyman - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:39

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:39
I just seen that LOL . not quite that old yet . I seen an elderly lady and i am guessing in her eighties driving a troopy once (go granny) .
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:44

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 20:44
troopyman,

Now you are saying little old ladies drive Troopies, that has really blown the Troopie image. :-))

Wayne
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:05

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:05
if our cruiser doesnt turn enough for you just wind in the nuts that prevent the wheels turning sharper

drove a troopy once that had esceptional turning-thats all he did
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 00:02

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 00:02
Get outmore and any others that think that's all you need to do to improve the turning circle of any 4wd.

You're wrong!

All that does is allow the swivel pin housings to bottom out, possibly damaging the oil seals and certainly overstresses the CV joints, front axles and diff.
It is NOT recommended by any vehicle manufacturer.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 17:13

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 17:13
I sold my Kermit to an elderly couple...LOL

Image Could Not Be FoundIf you go a troopie you would be better off with a 2000 or later. More comfortable with longer rear leaves and coils up front.
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Reply By: ross - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:30

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:30
Simply, the LR is for the fans of the British marque.
The Landcruser is for everyone else.

I wouldnt consider the Landrover unless you are a dedicated home mechanic who has nothing to do on the weekends

I bought my 75 with 190k on the clock about 3 years ago.
An aquaintence bought his 110 with similar klms and price at the same time.

Since then I have spent $2500 on the steering , front suspension,clutch and diff.
Its almost perfect and rides like a limo according to my passengers and mechanic

My friend has spent $6000 on gearbox ,clutch and number of electrical problems.
Still needs a lot more done according to a mechanic's report and it still rides like a bucket of bolts.
Dont expect women to share the LR enthusiasm
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:15

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:15
You get the good and the bad in all vehicles.

Just made some enquires. Your acquaintance was had. Should have been about 41/2 to 5 grand.

A travelling companion of ours just had his 75s gearbox overhauled, and the cheapest quote was $7250.
I bent a steering rod in out back Q'land last year, the cost to me for new rod, fitting and alignment was $140.00 in Mt Isia.

Before I bought my TD5 I did a price exercise on Tojo and landy major and minor parts. Over and overall the landy parts were cheaper. Tojo filters were cheaper.

Labour is the killer especially if the mechanic is not a full bottle on the subject.

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Follow Up By: ross - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:07

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:07
"Just made some enquires. Your acquaintance was had. Should have been about 41/2 to 5 grand.

A travelling companion of ours just had his 75s gearbox overhauled, and the cheapest quote was $7250."


How would you know if I didnt tell you the exact nature of his electrical or transmission problems?:confused:

Typical cost of a H55f transmission and t/case rebuild is about $3k plus install labour.
Breaking gears can push it up,but then it gets cheaper to buy a new trans.

Im not surprised the LR parts are cheaper,they are never on the shelf all that long
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 15:44

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 15:44
you made a statement that it cost 6000 grand to do his gearbox up and I replied that he was had.

it was obvious you were a one eyed tojo owner and no other vehicle came into the equation.

Therefore, I quietly stirred you up and you bit!

Have fun and drive safe.
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Follow Up By: nickb - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 17:31

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 17:31
"My friend has spent $6000 on gearbox ,clutch and number of electrical problems."

I read that as "to fix the gearbox, clutch and electrical problems cost $6000"

ie not just the gearbox.

Maybe I'm missing something, or I just don't get the idea of "fishing."
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Follow Up By: ross - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 18:49

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 18:49
Correct. You are missing nothing I can see.
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Follow Up By: wendys - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 19:42

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 19:42
"Don't expect women to share the LR enthusiasm"

Rubbish! Love our 110 Defender. Wouldn't have anything else. And yes, I do drive it - when he lets me. Is comfortable even over long days of driving (admit I am tall enough to be able to climb into it without a hassle). We have, over the 12 years we've had it, been able to get work done, servicing etc, in places well away from big cities - in fact, we have probably had less hassles up north than in Melbourne!
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 22:28

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 22:28
Nickb, you are reading it correctly, as I mentioned in post 3 I was quietly stirring Ross up.

Anyway everyone has their own their own views and the choice of vehicle is theirs.
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Reply By: Member - Hagar (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:34

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:34
I know of the LC 75 Series, what is the other one???
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:55

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:55
Hager,



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Land Rover 110 on Big Red. 75 Series in the back ground


This is a Land Rover 110.

A 130 is a dual cab ute.

Why is it called a 110? That is how many inches there are between the centre of the front axle to the centre of the rear axle.

A 130 has 130" between axles. Keeping it simple.

PS Did you know that 98% of all Land Rovers made in Australia are still n the road.



The other 2% have made it home. :-))
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Reply By: Member - Hagar (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 23:16

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 23:16
That was a joke Joyce!!!

Keep smiling.......I have had them all & I love them all...anything that gets me out there is a good thing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:19

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:19
Hey Haygar, notice how the white thing keeps out the way.
Must be embarrassed.
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Reply By: Bonzee - Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 23:37

Wednesday, Feb 11, 2009 at 23:37
Alright im hearin you all.
so this seems to be a pretty one sided agreement on the 75.
i like the idea of the aluminium body on the land rover though as i will be towing a boat...
out of these two which would u rate better for towing a boat and use for a mechanic at work?
thanks again guys.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:41

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:41
What ever vehicle you buy just make sure of its service history.
Last year talked to bloke who's 110 landy carried nearly 200 litres in three tanks. The main plus two others. Velly interesting.
Nothing really wrong with the Landy's. Been driving both for years. Off road the landy is the best.[Unmodified that is.]
It has been said that the Japs and others spend millions copying the Landy technology. Every time they do, Landy just moves the goal post further away. Quoted from two 4x4 magazines.

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Reply By: Alan H - Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:38

Thursday, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:38
I've had 1 Disco, 2 Defenders one of which was a Td5 and the only vehicle which has caused me grief mainly because there are no LR agencies outside the main metro areas except Albany.
Apart from that 1 instance though it was a good vehicle.

Now got a 300Tdi Defender (for sale) and a Prado and I'll use that for our long distance cruising now, but the Defender would leave it for dead off road plus they can carry more.
And if you get a Defender scartched it just seems to make it blend a bit more.
I still love the Landies but with no LR back up won't go far bush in one again, one bad experience was enough for the Cook (very important to keep her feeling secure) and me.
Good luck.
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