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Submitted: Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 16:05
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Well just bought a new truck. I got the 4.2tdi patrol . Oh what a feeling.

Anyway I am mechanically inclined , and want to do most of my own
maintenance. Thought I would get some sort of manual. what are the
options.
Also 5000 km seems a bit excessive for oil changes , so have read about
filtration systems in the forum . Have read Michael's comments on the
filter 2000 unit , and a frantz system , Also another one that sounded
restrictive. Basically is there a consensus on best for ease of use and
filter availability.

Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 16:09

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 16:09
from what I have always been told when diesels are involved

"Oil is cheap so change it often and use good stuff"Wow! am I cute
Richard
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Reply By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:01

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:01
Also beware the warrantee conditions, if something goes wrong don't give them an inch. Stick to their conditions at least for the first three years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 19:22

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 19:22
AndrewPatrol, Hi, dont know about Nissan, but Toyota charge $67.98 for 9.3lt of Castrol FMX, and$38.63 for oil filter, and @ $82.50 per hour for labour, =$189.50 every 5000km just for oil change. I say phooee to the warranty, and do oil and filter changes myself and get my local diesel specialist to do the rest @ $42.00 per hour. Did this with my Hilux and never had any problems.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 23:20

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 23:20
Phooee to warranty?

With a motor costing $15,000, Gearbox Rebuilds at $5000, just to name 2, wanna go for a onboard computer?

You must have more cabbage than me....
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Reply By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:02

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:02
Nissan filters are better. Change oil at 5000 & filters at 10000 as stated oil is cheap & diesels can get carbon buildup & it ain't good for cylinder walls.Regards Bob
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:07

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:07
oil at 5000..... oil and filter at 10000... it is a has to be..._____________________________________________

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Reply By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:07

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:07
Stick to the standard setup at least for the warrantee period or you risk voiding your warrantee.
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Follow Up By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:09

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:09
Woops double wammee
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Reply By: squiz - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:14

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:14
OK I'll do the 5K and 10K thing.
What about a manual. Just thought might
find some interesting reading.
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Follow Up By: michael - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:58

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 17:58
squiz, I've had my td42 since new and always changed oil and filters at 5000km. Works out cheaper if you buy filters and oil in bulk. Ryco filters(box of 24) from Filter Supplies WA in Welshpool. Oil of choice in 205l. drum with aluminium hand pump and no excuses for neglecting you new baby!
Good luck DRC.
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Follow Up By: ray91 - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 18:01

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 18:01
5000klm oil change is because of the turbo it cooks the oil if left longer.
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Follow Up By: Mick - Saturday, Aug 16, 2003 at 22:52

Saturday, Aug 16, 2003 at 22:52
Nothing to do with the turbo ray91. Just the characteristics of a diesel whether it's turbo or not. High compression is the basic cause.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 19:02

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 19:02
If its new, dont do anything but oil and filters yourself.. And then OK it with your dealer. They stamp the book afterall.

They dont need any excuse to say no to warranty problems...

Oi l- Whats 10ltr of oil and filters worth compared to a new motor?
5000klms works fine for me. and mine has 280,000 on it. Keep your engine in its best condition will last longer.

YMMV
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Reply By: CirclingVulture - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:33

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:33
You can't say you weren't given the good oil !
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Reply By: Big John (QLD) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 22:23

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 22:23
Another good reasion to buy a 100 series TD, oil changes every 10,000.
PS Just finished loading the car and heading to the Kimberleys, Canning and Simpson for the next 7 weeks at 6.00am in the morning. Talk to all again when we get back.

By Big John.
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Reply By: Truckster - Saturday, Aug 16, 2003 at 20:45

Saturday, Aug 16, 2003 at 20:45
Hello Squiz,
The high compression in a diesel causes breakdown of the oil much quicker than a petrol engine. They also accumulate more contaminants. Hence compared to a petrol engine of similar size they have a larger sump and require more frequent oil changes. And a Patrol is not a truck - it's a station wagon LOL I drive a truck. to be a truck you need more than 4 wheels!! I have 18.
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Reply By: Member - Donald_L - Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 20:22

Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 20:22
Squiz,
Hi,
You will get a zillion replies and there are extensive comments on the Forum,
Independant of this forum & other casual talk, Diesel engines have a soot problem regardless of the make or model. It is an inherant part of the combustion process.
Soot represents wear particles.
Do yourself a favour and protect your investment:
Service the motor by changing the oil every 5000K and don't penny pinch, change the oil filter as well.
Use oil filters that are of the same standard or better than Nissan use (there are after market units which fit this criteria)
With the oil choices, read all the Forum items as repeats often are cumbersome.
Synthetic oils offer greater anti-wear properties in some applications but they do not get rid of the soot, they just mask it.
I have 37 years engineering experience to promote the above & hope to be of some help.
regards DonaldGet out there and use it.
Life is too short not to.
All the best...
Donald
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Follow Up By: spotgj - Tuesday, Aug 19, 2003 at 16:48

Tuesday, Aug 19, 2003 at 16:48
Donald, been trucking for 35 years and as an Owner Driver I ran the oil to 25,000kms but I changed the filters every 8,000kms. The oil will always look black and thats a good thing,its cleaning the donkey of soot and the filters catch it...by the way a regular lab test from Castrol helps determine your change points...some trucks change the oil every 100,000 kms, one trucking company Bunkers recycle the black oil back to the diesel tank, ,the oil is replaced automatically...it works for them...some big motors use a liter per 1,000kms so I cannot see why some of you junk good oil,maybe you have to much cabbage ?
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