oil for ZD30

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:05
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hi all, since i have just purchased new tyres for the truck, im going to have to do the next service myslef, to save a bit of cash...
my question is, what is the best oil for the ZD30?
i know i should do the services myself anyway to save money, but im an ex mechanic, so iv been there and done that.=, and im liking someone else getting dirty for my personal benifit. but cant help it this time, bloody bastards charge a left hows ya father for a bit of rubber.

long winded post but any thoughts on the best weight oil for the patrol?. live in Canberra, no tropical work this run
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:22

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:22
Mate you will get a thousand answers!, Good luck all the same,

I have the same question , Which oil for a V8 petrol cruiser??.

Have spent all arvo researching, Still none the wiser!!, What i have decided tho is it will be fully synthetic, But what grade?

There has been so many issues out there with different motors.

Wish there was just one oil for everything...lol.

Hope you get your answer


Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Madfisher - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:31

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:31
Greg the Patrol forum would be a good place to do some research, but for what it is worth I have found that when I have used Penrite in my engines they run smoother and quiter, and this oil does not break down as fast as some other oils( my observations only)
Have you the manual for the vehicle?
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Greg T (ACT) - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:43

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:43
'this might seem a bit odd, but i have the 4.2 manual not the 3.0. downloaded it from the net, same stuff,just n ot onthe motor.
ill cheak the patrol forum out. cheers
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:59

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:59
Hi Greg

I can't find the info now, but recall Nissan recommended a specific synthetic oil, and said other oils should not be used. Ring a Nissan dealer.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:04

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:04
Hi MH

You said "recall Nissan recommended a specific synthetic oil, and said other oils should not be used".

That was a way of combating the engine claims by Nissan I am sure.

I can just imagine the conversation right now

Cust: "My engine just blew up"
Nissan: "If you were not using X oil we cant help you"

Call me cynical if you like.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:08

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:08
Dont laugh !! It has happened just like that, recently.

Refer post 61989

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Reply By: Foxhound (WA) - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 19:52

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 19:52
I am a Penrite oil fan myself. Having owned a ZD30 I used HPR 15 Diesel oil, that's what penrite recommend. If at any time you need to know what oil type to use just go to the Penrite website and you will find all the recommended oils there. If in doubt send them an Email and you will get the answer in a few hours..Regards.
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Reply By: Member - Lance S (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 19:57

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 19:57
Greg,

Nissan specs have changed from the original 15/40, to the new Castrol Magnatec semi - synthetic 10/40 which i am using and have been for a number of services. Speaking Castrol recently and they also mentioned that the new Magnatec Diesel 15/40 is just as good. But whatever oil you decide to use make sure it has the ACEA A3/B3 , API CF, since using the 10/40 my oil has gone from the usual black colour to almost clear.

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Reply By: dave the brickie - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:05

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:05
there is a new oil from Mobil fully synthetic made for EGR diesels.
Mobil delvac 1 ESP5w40.Expensive but so is a rebuild.
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Reply By: Ianw - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 22:22

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 22:22
NISSAN MOTOR CO. (AUSTRALIA) PTY. LTD. ABN. 54 004 663 156
Locked Bag 1450, Dandenong South, VIC, 3164 Phone. (03) 9797 4111 Fax. (03) 9797 4400
www.nissan.com.au

The information in this bulletin should not be interpreted as a basis for claims unless so designated.

Part numbers referred to may not always be immediately available.

Always order parts from relevant parts information and not this bulletin.
First Published: 30th September 2004 Bulletin No: MA04-001
Recommended circulation

THIS INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL TO NISSAN DEALERS ONLY

PRODUCT INFORMATION

Re: Revised Engine Oil Specification

Applied Model: Y61 & D22 Applied range: ZD30 Engines
Please be advised that the specification for the oil fill on the ZD30 has been revised. Engine
Oils that meet the specification listed below are the only oils that are permitted for use in the
ZD30 Engine.

Oil Specification: ACEA B3 or JASO DH-1

Nissan strongly recommend that a viscosity rating of 10W40 be used. For specific viscosity
relating to ambient temperature ranges please refer to the viscosity chart in the relevant
workshop manual.

Note: API CG-4 oils must never be used in the ZD30 engine.
To support the revision in oil specification, Nissan has developed a semi-synthetic 10W-40
engine oil that meets all the operational demands of this engine. The revision of the new oil
specification is retrospective and will apply to all ZD30 engines.
The oil will be available from Nissan Parts & Accessories in 5lt and 200lt quantities using the
following part numbers.
5lt - B3005-10W40PK
200lt - B3200-10W40PK
Authorised by:
R Bahn
Manager - Engineering Support
National Service & Engineer
ing Department

This Nissan service bulletin has been listed here several times before on previous threads

Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 23:07

Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 at 23:07
iainw

Be careful what you are quoting from Nissan. Not all readers will have the same vehicle.

My log book for 2003 ZD30 quotes "for hot and warm areas - 20W-40 and 20W-50 are suitable. On turbo charger models use 5W-30 below 0 degrees C".

My log book for 2005 ZD30 quotes "5W-30 is preferable". Graph indicates temp range from -30 to +40 C.

I've made my decision after much study on patrol4x4 forum. Delco 400.

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Follow Up By: charlie horse - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:19

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:19
I totally agree with Malcolm, use what the Patrol Drivers Handbook recommends and you cannot go wrong.

I use 5W-30 as the preferable oil as stated in the 2005 drivers H/B.

A check with my Nissan dealer has verified there in no bulletin to repudiate this.

The bulletin from Nissan above is for vehicles prior to 2005.

Oil Specification: ACEA B3 or JASO DH-1 is very relevant.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:53

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:53
I agree that the handbooks for post Sep 2004 vehicles should be followed.
However this bulletin clearly states that

" Revised Engine Oil Specification

Applied Model: Y61 & D22 Applied range: ZD30 Engines
Please be advised that the specification for the oil fill on the ZD30 has been revised. Engine
Oils that meet the specification listed below are the only oils that are permitted for use in the
ZD30 Engine.

Oil Specification: ACEA B3 or JASO DH-1 "

All it is saying is that the oil Must conform to the above specs. Oil viscosity is still determined by the operating conditions.

However if you get it serviced by the nissan people they will probably use the Nissan 10w40 oil or whatever bulk drum they have on hand!!

Ian.
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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:36

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:36
I used to use HPR Diesel, I changed to Mobil Delvac last year, for no other reason than when I work for Mobil Jabiru in the off season, I get my parts and oils for cost, so a 44 of Delvac was $370 cheaper than a 44 of HPR.

I service all my fleet 2 OKAs and 3 100 series using Delvac, we use Delvac on all types of Diesels at Mobil as well.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: ross - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:37

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:37
I think the brand of oil is overplayed. As long as the type/viscosity is correct ,you are good to go.
Its no point saying X brand is better than Y brand unless you have some kind of proof.

To prove one brand is better than another would require engines beng run on one oil for thousands of klms and then stripped and inspected.

Brand loyalty without proof is nonsense
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:46

Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:46
If I owned a ZD30, I'd just buy the 10W40 Nissan branded oil that is stocked in their spare parts dept. Costs similar to oil you'll buy elsewhere and it is made for the ZD30. Good price and you'll have no issues.

I've bought Nissan branded oil (Special Blend 7.5W30) for our petrol Nissans for the past 10 years.
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