4Wd's, Cars & Pushbikes on the road?

Sorry bout the spellin and grandmah, got a case a phat phingers syndrome!

You don't indicate which State you're in - In Victoria it is illegal to ride a bicycle on the road if a bicycle path is provided (Road Rule 247(1)). It is also illegal to ride a bicycle on a road without being as far left as practicable (Road Rule 129(1)) ie riding on the right side of a left lane etc.

Cyclists can still ride two abreast - legally - but self preservation comes into play a bit here - I wouldn't do it and keep to the bike tracks and rail trails - saves being vaccuumed up!

In the end it's about commonsense and not featuring in the Darwinian Awards, 2009!!



Tim

I agree if there is a cycleway, he should use it but he probably owns a car and pays taxes like everyone else so he is entitled to use the road. In fact he has the same rights and is entitled to a lane as car drivers are.. Treat him like a parked car and indicate and move to the next lane.. I actually dont have a problem with them. Michael

Unless specifically sign posted that bikes are not allowed (& some freeways are) I'd see him as just another road user & you must allow sufficient room. In other words if you are having trouble giving him enough space when over taking then change to the inside lane. You wouldn't squeeze through that close if it was a slow motor cycle would you? The lack of tollerance towards push bikes on Oz roads is unfortunate particually as more often than not they'd only hold you up no more than 60 seconds at any time.
Suggesting that you'd run this fella over if he was in any way breaking the law pretty much sums up your stupidity!
Cheers Craig..............

I know I shouldn't bite but I will.................. I'm a law abiding bike rider and drive a 4WD as well. Also ride road motor bikes on occasions. I sometimes commute on my pushbike, sometimes drive. I have never had an issue with a cyclist when driving. I have no problems sitting behind them waiting for a safe place to pass. I do sometimes have issues when riding- sometimes people have not seen me and it is quite easy to see they haven't seen me so no issue and they usually wave sorry. The times revenge is taken is when it is absolutely obvious a bully has seen me and just pushed past me running me off the road. It is really beyond me where this Aussie agro towards bikes come from. I have not seen it happen in other countries I have ridden and driven in- most places every one just plays together.

But again, if the bike is doing 30 km/h for one km and you have to sit behind them and chill out rather than sit on 60 km/h- we are talking very minimal time.

Matt D

Not too sure about the cycle-lane issue.
I find that, in general, cyclists are predictable and are aware how vunerable they can be. Giving them a little room doesnt hurt.

Its those 3 wheel things where the rider is reclined that bother me.
They seem that much slower and veer all over the place, making it hard to line him up for the 'big nudge'.....lol.


Cheers......Lionel.

personally get rid of all bloody bikes off the roads they are a PITA

steve

As a former cyclist, I'm afraid they are just a bloody menace on the road, especially here in Perth where they seem to think they have some God-given right to ride wherever they like.
Dedicated paths, yes; sharing roads with other vehicles is just crazy. They should be banned.

I dont ride alot but there are some roads or spots where they narrow and i couldnt give a damn if its illegal to ride on the footpath its what i do

I have riden on a few roads where i wish there had been footpaths

Sorry get outmore, that wasn't meant as a follow up to your post, I hit the wrong button!

I understand that you are in a hurry.... but I haven't had a problem with bike riders ever!

I just slow down and let them do their thing and overtake when I can.

I am usually driving vehicles that put a heap of junk in the air and am happy to have another road traveller balance things out for me. :-]]

PS.... bet my F350 is wider than your effie!

The sort of intolerance displayed by some people here is similar to that displayed by Scruby towards 4wd's.

As an ex bus driver I admit to be mighty frustrated at times when having successfully passed a cyclist they then go to the front of the queue at the next set of lights, and I have to do it all again!
But such is life on the road and drivers of other vehicles are much more of a dangerous menace than bike riders.
Alan.

Driving to and from work each day I rarely comes across more than 1 pushie.

I can assure I come across at least 5 dills in cars each day doing stupid things.

Much ado about nothing IMHO.

Jim.

Takes up precious road space and is tosser... sounds like the attitude of the average person towards drivers of F250's.

for those that asked...

1. It is WA - so is it legal or illegal to ride a bike on a hwy where a two lane white lined bitumen cycleway is specifically provided?.

2. I'm only interested in the issue as far as where cycleways are provided - I realise it;s illegal to ride a bike on a footpath, and have no issue with ikes on highways where cycleways arent provided.

3. Never hit ANYONE in 31 years of driving - zero demerits, 65% No claims and i hold HR with bus endorsement, including school bus driver for 3 years etc etc. I have a good (excellent) cleanskin driving record.

4. I don't mind crawling along behind a bike where the rider has no other option available to him.

5. Where its siggested to switch lanes - to pass - thats not an option - we are talking peak hour traffic solid lines of cars in both lanes...this guy is slowing the inside lane (me) to a crawl for km's.
If / when you do get past him safely - as soon as you pull up at the next lights he sneaks up the inside to the front and does it al over again for the stretch to the next set of lights etc etc.
It's a deliberate act to frustrate traffic / car drivers.
He doesnt treat his bike like a vehicle and say ion his lane as motorcyclists are sposed to do - he sneaks up the inside of the line of traffic to the front then cycles away at the head of the line from the lights.
Thats wrong and it's worse when he has the cycleway option.

6. My intention is to report the guy to police for his own safety sake - theres plenty commuters on this route besides me who wish this guy physical harm - My aim is to get the police to deal with it IF it is in fact "illegal" in any way, BEFORE one of my ilk loses the plot - does a road rage and makes him into bugspot on a bullbar.

7. Reason for the enquiry is to know if/what road rules he is breaking, in order to report him for his own safety sake.

8. No point wasting the police time IF he is n breaking any laws.

9. His own behaviour will see him a statistic whether I nudge him or not - it s nt a question of "if" - but a question of when he becomes yet another road statistic.

10. The fact I asked him nicely and he just shugs his shoulders, rolls his eyes and keeps on doing it that bugs me, it was a metaphoric equivalent of the middle finger salute...whenI was ONLY concerned for HIS safety.

If there isn't a law to stop peanuts of this ilk - there should be IMHO.

Cheers

ROFLMAO

This thread should have been in Friday Funnies

what came first, the chicken or the egg? Sorry it's not relevant.


what came first, the bicycle ............or the car?
what came first, the road .............or the cycleway?

The horse and cart also made way to share the track with the bicycle who shared the road with the motor bike and the motor car and the truck and the semi and the B dbl and...............
So WHO is the most important person on the road who has the most right of way whether their is a purpose built track for their purpose to get to point B in allotted time?

Me of course, I'm the most important and if your in my way and holding me up then watch out whether your in a car, 4by, truck or on a pushie. (Yes i have several bikes and am not afraid to use them )I know where I'm going and know how I'm getting there and I'll do all it takes to get around you and ahead until I arrive at my destination, SAFELY. My safety first and others fall into line after that. OK???????????
Is my safety going to be jepordised by my actions?

Andy

S,Ok

Got im wif the door this morning! ;o)

Cheers!