Car trouble....Advice needed...

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:05
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went for a drive this morning, as usual, car started a bit slow,
(took about 20ish turns to start) the idle was really low (about 600RPM).
but it drove fine, through all the gears (auto) and up to speed.
then i decided to put the boot in and it just died in the arse.
wouldn't rev above 1250RPM and a real low idle, but still ran. :-k
til finally it stalled, and refused to fire again.
checked the fuel lines and they were full of air. so i bled the fuel line,
pumped the pressure up using the primer and it ran perfect.
for about 30secs. ](*,)
checked the lines again, bled the air, pumped the primer, and the same thing. :-# UUCK!!!
got a tow truck to take it home, went inside to curse and swear some more and way up my options.
about an hour later i went back to the car primed the lines,
and started it again to move it up to the shed and it drove perfect.
took it for a blast around the yard and still no problem,
it revved right to the red line and idled fine.

What the hell has happened??
do i need a new pump or a rebuild??
and if so whats the costs??

It's a 93 hilux Surf, TD.
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:19

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:19
I have a feeling its a fuel filter problem, a water trap problem if it has one?, or inline fuel filter blockage, Go for the easy ones first!


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:25

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:25
I tried this for experimental sake while we were stuck on the side of the road, (bypass the water trap) and had the same problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:35

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:35
Lift pump then, Maybe?



Axle.
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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:21

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:21
have checked all hoses and filters and everything seems fine, no water in fuel either, all clean...Im stumped.
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:25

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:25
How much fuel in the tank ?
If its low maybe dragging crap into the fuel line.

Nissan did the same until I figured it out.


Cheers......Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:27

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:27
Tank was 1/2 full.
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:41

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:41
It may be something to do with your recent Thread about it going for a swim :)


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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:48

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 20:48
I wondered about that. But that happened weeks ago....and up until today it was driving fine.
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Reply By: Roughasguts - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 21:15

Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 21:15
Have you got a drain plug in your fuel tank?

If you have, drain some fuel off and check for water contamination.
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:58

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:58
Sounds to me like an air leak somewhere in the fuel line between the tank and pump allowing air to be sucked instead of fuel. Maybe at the tank outlet? Had the same problem with a tractor years ago. Good luck, keep us posted with the result. Like has been said, look for the simple things first!
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Follow Up By: Thermoguard Instruments - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:21

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:21
I'm with Ian H on this one. All the hallmarks of an air leak into the lines between the tank and the lift pump. Check that the sendimenter drain (if fitted) and the filter are tight and if this doesn't do any good, start checking all the pipe/tube fittings in the line.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:23

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:23
no leaks anywhere, any other suggestions would be great. If it was the injector pump, would the car still be driving??
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Follow Up By: Thermoguard Instruments - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:37

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:37
Just bear in mind that we're talking about air being sucked in, not diesel leaking out. So there'll be no obvious signs of a leak. If it were a failure in the injection pump, I doubt the engine would run at all.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:39

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:39
Just had a thought. Maybe fuel tank cap not allowing air into the tank as the fuel level drops???? As I said, just a thought.
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Follow Up By: Hayley_Demc - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:23

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:23
The tank has it's own roll over valve which i have checked.
Put in a clear section of hose at sediment filter to check for air leak, but no bubbles so cant see a problem there. All filters clean too.
I did put in injector cleaner on saturday, about 5 min before it died on me. Has anyone experienced any problems using injector cleaner??
When it's been sitting for a while it starts perfectly and will drive for about 10min before it conks out. Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance
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