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I know most people hate gennies but I need to run a sleep machine of one so that I can survive the night. I need to know of anybody the most quite machine so I do not disturb everybody on the campsite. by the way it needs to be 240. Cheers
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:43

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:43
Try a search under Honda?
Might find a bit of info there.

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Reply By: Foxhound (WA) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:48

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:48
I have used a CPAP now for going on 11 years. You don`t need to run a generator,I use the deep cycle battery in my Toyota to drive a 300 Watt inverter that in turn drives the CPAP.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 15:13

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 15:13
Fox is correct.
This has been posted many times and an archive search will provide lots of answers as to the best way to set up and run these machines without resorting to a generator all night.

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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 15:52

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 15:52
I agree with above , running a genny all night for such a light load is very inefficient as well as loosing you a lots of friends.
IF you already have your machine I suggest you take it with you & request that you try it on the inverter before buying, just to make sure they are compatible.
If you are still to get the machine ask the supplier if it will work ok on a MSW inverter[ these are the cheapest, but some 240v gear do not function correctly on them]
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Reply By: Member - Barry H (WA) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:51

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 14:51

Whatever you do, dont buy a Yamaha, their after sales service ( or lack of it) absolutely stinks.


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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:20

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:20
yep, I'll go along with the service bit. Tried to get a replacement petrol shut off knob. Non of the dealers were interested in getting one. In the end I made one up myself. generator goes well. Cheers
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:39

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:39
Ive had the same problems but there is a company in Malaga that does their warranty work and they will get the knobs and dash lights if you need them(they did for me anyway).
They are called Welling and Crossley U5/235 camboon rd Malaga

And if you look on pages 1272-1273 of the A-K yellow pages,there are 3 ads with pics of Yamaha generators claiming parts and service
Hempfield Small Motor Servce
Small Motors Mower City

As for the CPAP machine,you can get 12v models for camping.
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:01

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:01
Hi Ross, thanks for the info. Only exception is Small Motors Mower City in Morley. They gave me the run around for 2 months after my numerous phone calls to them, they were just not interested. Give them a big miss. Cheers
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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:26

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:26
Welling & Crossley would want to do the warranty work they are not just a dealer they are the Australian Distributor for Yamaha Generator Products and if they do not look after you then all is lost with Yamaha.
A lot of dealer only want to sell you something but they should at least tell you where the Welling and Crossley state contact is.

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Follow Up By: robertbruce - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 18:35

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 18:35
I have found Welling and Crossley are excellant to deal... and order your parts thru pittman yamaha in adelaide.

The 1k yammy is quieter and uses less fuel than the eu10, this was proven at whylie park about 16 months ago during an impromptu match off..

I was told by a Yamaha dealer there ws a recall of the first 50 EF1000ef's... for a fuel blockage...before i learnt this this I got a full refund 3 months into ownership.. imgine tht, full refund from a multi-national, now that is service

the first one i got was a bad hunter...after the refund i went straight out, demoed another one and bought exactly the same, but this one must have been from the second batch, it runs smooth.

The yammy is also very very easy to work on and parts are much less tell the truth - they are darn nice to work on...

Mines got 7500 hrs, gets used dialy, uses a small amount of oil and blows a tiny bit of blue smoke on start-up that dissapears after about 5-10 seconds... i am very very impressed with the ef1000is, Yamaha and Welling and Crossley

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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:40

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:40
Hi Ian
I bought my genny at a tent at a caravan and camping show thinking the vendor was local.
When I had a small problem I looked at the receipt and found they were a NSW company,some kind of travelling outfit that follow the shows : (.

I was starting to think I had bought a real stinker by then.

Luckily I mentioned my problem to a manager at a Ranger Camping store and she passed on the Welling and Crossley name to me.
I am forever in her debt
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:43

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:43
Mine has about 20 hours on it after 3 years.
At that rate I calculate it will need replacing in the year 3034AD
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Follow Up By: robertbruce - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 21:25

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 21:25
heya Ross - you'll be able to pass it down the family even...

Believe me it will last, with what i have put mine thru, the yammy is as tough as iron nails...

also, when mines slightly overloaded and I scrole my mouse, it has the coolest little bark. It is the perfect answer to the trail bikes blatting past...
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Reply By: BenDiD - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:31

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 16:31

I am planning to run mine off the deep cycle battery.

I haven't done the maths yet to see if my battery is up to the task but if it can run a fridge for 2 days it should be able to run my CPAP for 6 hours.

ResMed even makes a 12V plug adaptor its machines. (No affiliation, I have a Respironics).

Good luck

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:26

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 17:26
Many people run their 240 volt CPAP machine from an inverter connected to a 12 volt supply.
Others buy a 12 volt CPAP machine also connecting it to a 12 volt supply.

The 12 volt supply may be the vehicle's singular "starting" battery, or an auxiliary battery in a dual battery, or multi-battery configuration.



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Reply By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 18:08

Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 18:08
I run my Resmed off a Waeco 60watt non sinusoidal inverter with no trouble, sometimes off the deep cycle and sometimes off the start battery. My Cpap machine only takes 1amp without the humidifier so the power drain is negligible.
I bought the Resmed thingo to operate directly off the 12v (it won't run off 12v without it) and never use it as it takes about the same operating current as the inverter, $100 wasted. I carry a 200watt sine wave inverter to run the humidifier but as yet have never used it.
Hope that helps. Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Gavan F (WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 17:15

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 17:15
G'day Tickityboo

Ive been a hose head for a couple of years now . I brought a second hand Cpap from my Sleep centre for $150 bucks ,which I take Camping and Caravaning .(leaving the good one at home)

I have just spent 3 months travelling around Aust in a mix of Powered and Unpowered sites in my C/van and some camping in a tent. I also do a lot of camping in a swag. The Cpap will run off a 300 Watt Inverter and so far it has done it off a cheapy. ($79) one.

If you require the humidifier .( They use more power). Try useing water pass over. (non heated). I have tested my F & P and it _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx less than 1 amp set at 10.

Another useful hint is useing a second length of hose to help with some of the akward sleeping arangements of camping and caravans .(you may need to up the pressure level ?) Also remember to take a small extension cord for the machine (or a long one if the car and tent are a distance away)

A small solar panel should maintain the 7-10 AH required if sitting in the one spot for a time. I have a 100W panel and 80 Ah Aux bat in my car that looks after my 50 lt fridge and light and Cpap .

Hope some of this helps ?

Regards Gavan. ( 100% compliant )
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