Permits - Giles WS?

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If you have permits to travel both the Great Central Road & the Gunbarrel Highway, is anything else required to visit the Giles Weather Station?
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:09

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:09
Giles is essentially on the GCR, and signs welcome visitors for a tour of the station (I recall it's at 9am to see the weather balloons go up). Assuming you have a permit for the GCR, then no probs.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:31

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:31
Thanks!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:46

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:46
Shaker, Giles weather station operates on SA time (same as NT), not WA time, and balloon goes up at 8.30 am SA standard time, which is synchronised with balloon releases at weather stations throughout the world. The visitor room is open at 8 am, and has history of the weather station, Len Beadell memorabilia and other items of interest. We spent a while there before the tour and again afterwards. We had phoned ahead to say we would be there that morning, although they do understand people's travel estimations can vary. We stayed at the Warakurna RH overnight to be ready for the early start.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:47

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:47
That answered my next question, which was where is the closest place to camp to Giles.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:46

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:46
Hi Shaker,
Good Camp ground right behind the Warakurna Roadhouse. Make sure you bring in your own wood for a fire, as trying to get enough around the roadhouse area is very scarce.

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Reply By: Sixty at Last - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:14

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:14
Does anyone know what happens if one travels in a 'permit required' area and one has overlooked the need to acquire same? Cheers. JB.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:32

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:32
You get eaten!
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Follow Up By: Sixty at Last - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:36

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:36
I'm sure that's not the case anymore.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:43

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:43
Great, that's one hazard I can cross off the list!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:46

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:46
Ya never know, Sixty
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Follow Up By: Sixty at Last - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:48

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:48
At least i made 60!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:51

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:51
And I got all the right permits to make sure i do too (to make what age i can't reveal because a lady is allowed to lie about her age).

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Follow Up By: Sixty at Last - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:03

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:03
Ladies are more tender Motherhen. I reckon I could sacrifice der navigator and scoot.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:11

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:11
Does she ever read the forum Sixty? If so, you could be in BIG strife.

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Follow Up By: Sixty at Last - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:15

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I am a gent of honour Motherhen. I had so informed her that a dilemma was at hand and that she might be at risk. She's plucky however and smart. I don't trust her.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:40

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:40
Hi
Part of any successful tip, comes down to planning, knowing where you are going and what you could expect. You do not just stumble into aboriginal lands without knowing it. Ignorance is no excuse.

It does not take much time to organise them over the Internet.

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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:11

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:11
shame on me I always seem to "overlook"........never been an issue yet.....
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:17

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The locals are rather partial to bungarra roasted in the coals
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:23

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:23
Good one Motherhen...I'll pay that one
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:54

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:54
Hi Shaker,
Check at the Warakurna Roadhouse for opening times and Balloon Launching times. The First one in the morning is the larger.
Get there about 8.15am CST for a run down before the launching.
Here are a few Photos from the Giles weather station.

Enjoy your trip out that way. We are back out that way again in August.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:19

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:19
Thanks, we are expecting to be there around the 29th July on the way to do the CSR.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 23:14

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 23:14
Hi Stephen,
When permits are organised online, do these then have to be printed off to display on the vehicle or can we just take note of a number??
Not sure when or whether we will be travelling on roads which require them until somewhere along the way, as we will be travelling for close to 6 months, so it isnt always possible to organise them before we leave home.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:57

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:57
Hi Heather,
Seeing we always take our notebook with us, I always have the permits in my trip folder for quick access. The only permits that I print off is the one when heading out from Yulara. The people at the toll booth have always checked the information, and vehicle registration on the permit to that of the car, to make sure they are the same. They then give you a little lecture, saying that you must proceed straight for the Great Central Road, and not detour and visit the Rock, as you have not paid the entry fee which gives you the right to see the attractions there. As for being on the road for 6 months, when you are near an internet cafe, drop into them, apply for your permit on line when you know that you will be entering an area that requires a permit. Transfer the permit information onto a flash drive to then download into your computer for your reference.

Enjoy your great trip, and put that great camera into overtime.

All the best and Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:12

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:12
Thanks Stephen.

I carry my notebook too, so I could organise a permit online when we are away, just dont have any access to printer except for a postcard one. Havent tried to print anything other than photos on it as yet but I suppose it prints text.

I guess I could start the notebook up and show it to anyone who wanted to view it if the need arises. Would that be correct?

We have only got vague plans as to where we will get to, WA being totally new to us and such an enormous area to explore.
Dont want to rush it so think we will do part this year and go back next to different areas.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:18

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:18
Hi Heather,
Yes there is a lot of BIG COUNTRY out there. WA has a very lot to offer and like you said, you do not want to rush it.

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Reply By: Sixty at Last - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:32

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:32
Hi Stephen, thanks.

It's not the planning that sort of narks me. It's a just mild resentment that I need a 'passport' to travel on public roads (which are maintained through public taxation) through my own country.

I wouldn't mind needing a permit to enter into the private areas of large communities or to any smaller community or to any specific sites of importance on Aboriginal lands such as at the Calverts.

Cheers. John.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:03

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:03
Hi John
Do not worry, when we are away, my group always have the same gripes as you, and I have even mentioned it here on EO, after all, it is the Australian Taxpayers money that pays for all the upkeep of roads throughout Australia.
Could you imagine the public outcry if we made our Community brothers obtain a permit to enter out towns??

Even some of the areas that we are planning on going to this year, access has been denied, why, because they are for Aboriginal use only.

Cheers and enjoy your outback travels.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:33

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:33
permits are one thing but for crying out loud its meant to be the great central road linking QLD with WA

its vision will never come to fruition until the 2 permits to travel this road are either scrapped or at the very least a single permit availabe at Laverton and yulara in much the same way as the meerinie loop road
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:44

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:44
How things have changed.

When we visited Giles in 1991 there was no roadhouse.

When asked about a good spot to camp, the Giles staff suggested the airstrip !!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:39

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:39
We were invited to stay there at the station itself in 1985. Everyone met at the Giles Country Club for refreshing beverages at 5.00 p.m.

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Reply By: greenextreme - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 23:24

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 23:24
Hi Shaker,

No permit needed to visit Giles.

Transit Permits required for Gt Central Rd AND Lasseter Hwy from WA/NT border to Yulara.

I've never heard of anyone checking if cars travelling these roads actually have a permit, not to suggest travel without a permit is OK.

I've always carried a paper copy of the permits and recorded the permit number and date seperately in my log book [it helped when we got broken into and lost valuables and permits!!].

Suggest you apply for a permit for the approximate dates you expect to travel and if opportunity or need arises, re-apply if you feel the need to carry a re-validated permit.

Hope this helps.

cheers,
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