Permits for Access to Aboriginal Lands in the NT

Submitted: Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:22
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I intend later this year to do some touring in the NT. So as to prepare I asked Tourism NT last Nov. the following Q to which I never received a useful response:

"Can you please confirm, since the failure today in the Senate of Gov't efforts to reinstate the permit system, that I will not need to seek any permissions in Arnhem Land (or anywhere else in the NT) when I 4wd the NT next year (which is also, I assume, the present situation??)".

Does anyone know whether permits are required in the NT following the federal interventions or is the 'need' just a paper tiger?

Cheers. JB.


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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:31

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:31
Hi JB
Yes permits are required to travel through and enter aboriginal lands. If you check out the permit system on the CLC Web site, it states the full details of requiring a permit and also mentions that fines of up to $1000 if caught without a valid permit. The only good thing is that nearly all are free and can be applied online

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 02:18

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 02:18
Are you sure?
I dont get them..And Im not real sure if you actually need them at the moment???
The reason I question that, is my daughters school bus now goes into camps......which means you dont need one, or should I apply for one so she can get home legally?????
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 07:16

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 07:16
Hi Hairy,
I have spoken to them on the phone personally. All the reports in the media when the Federal government had their intervention made it sound like they were doing away with the permit system. The CLC claim that they are still in place, free to obtain and are used to monitor the number of people that are passing through/entering aboriginal lands. It is all explained on their web site.

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Follow Up By: handy - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:29

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:29
hairy when i worked in the communities, hermannsburg,yuendumu,larjamanu etc we only needed a permit if we were staying there. Day visits didnt require one. cheers
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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:32

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:32
Arnhemland permit system

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Reply By: SteveD - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 00:03

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 00:03
Permits are not needed, CLC, NLC and website will pedal their own agenda and some information on them is not correct, again there own agenda. I am not suggesting, breaking the law, but pursue government departments for answers and get the correct information. Last resort contact local police if unsure.
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Follow Up By: Sixty at Last - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 00:35

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 00:35
Thanks Steve, that's what I thought. I'll do some more research via the authorities. Everyone seems to be ducking. Cheers. JB.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 07:19

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 07:19
Hi Steve
What I have stated above is taken from their web site. Surely if this was false information, they could be taken to the cleaners, after all they have their own legal team, and after all the Law is the Law??

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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:03

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:03
Steve D I am getting sick and tired of people on this forum giving false and missleading info.

You need a permit to enter Arnhemland this has nothing to do with the NLCs agenda, it is LAW! The only difference now is, that the permit you received before the intervention was to go from A to B, you can now go from the border to a community and move around it freely (in public places), this was put in place to allow Gov officials, media and prospectors, the right to enter these areas and go about there business, were as before they were not given permission to do so.

Arnhemland is not crown land it is private property.

A simple google search reveals the truth:

The Hon Jenny Macklin MP on Permit system on Aboriginal land in NT

Again: If you cross the East Alligator River without a valid permit in your pocket, you're committing an offence!

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Follow Up By: handy - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:24

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:24
agree steve, i had to apply for one the other day to go and stay on centre island out in the sir edward pellew islands. these islands were handed back the TLO a couple of years ago.
same goes if you cross the roper bar. cheers
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Follow Up By: slammin - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 14:10

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 14:10
[quote]CLC, NLC and website will pedal their own agenda [\quote]

Hmm who's peddling their own agenda?

Thanks Top End Tours, too many Steve's in this thread LOL
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Reply By: Sixty at Last - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:21

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:21
Many thanks for that press release Steve. That's the answer. Cheers. JB.
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