Lock up your 4WD's!

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 16:37
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We shouldn't be reacting to extreme journalism or extreme views, but this article on news.com makes interesting reading news.com article

A radical Greens group is encouraging its members to go feral and be civilly disobedient. One of the requests is to disable 4WD's.

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Reply By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 16:53

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 16:53
I suggest if they want to be non violent then they should not touch someone Else's property - I would assume they would fine some violence if they got caught. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:18

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:18
Yes , if i seen one of these vegan - vegie munching skinny hippies letting down my tires or "disabling" my car - they would would get a kick up the back side so hard there kids noses would bleed .....

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Reply By: Pajpower - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:00

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:00
"* DISABLE a 4WD. (Letting the tyres down is one way - and doesn't leave you open to "malicious damage" charges, because it doesn't damage the vehicle)"

Hope they are watching while I put the 4by on a fast idle for 20 mins while running the compressor to pump them back up. mmmmmm great for the environment that! LOL

Slow news week
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:49

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:49
paj
not only are they inviting trouble they are getting very poor legal advice as well. Because some process has to be gone through to return the tyres to their original condition, the act of letting them down is "malicious damage"!!! I have seen a number of courts uphold this argument and numerous offenders convicted. The sooner this country gets rid of the second tier of government that breeds these d___khead politicians the better.

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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:58

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:58
I agree with Teege...it is an offence !!

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Follow Up By: Pajpower - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:01

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:01
I was quoteing from the story
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Follow Up By: Tim - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 17:59

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 17:59
Mal Damage/Destroy = Temporary/Permanent functional derangement. (ie letting down tyres).
Tim
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:14

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:14
I'd be careful of this. It has all the hallmarks of a classic "dirty tricks" strategy where an unknown splinter group suddenly emerges and claims to be doing something in the name of another organization, which is then discredited. Like the gentleman who was caught giving out flyers purporting to come from Muslims urging them to support Labour at the last Fedreral election. Or the mob caught red handed last week putting fake information on a Barack Obama site in an attempt to discredit him by making him seem to support views that weren't his. Note the vague information about the group supposed to be making these claims and the disavowal by the actual Green representative.
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:31

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:31
Hi there. This lot in fact has a name - Rising Damp or something - and has international affiliations. It seems the Aussie lot are copying stunts from the UK and USA.
When I was at Unit it was the Socialist Left, the Trots and various other groups.
This lot are also behind the disruption of the Press Club address by Kevin07, and the Eraring Power Station picket.
Same formula as the 70's though - a lot of fun knocking the system (but in a nice way, because it is in a 'good cause'!); the boys get a testosterone fix, everyone feels a tribal bonding growing, and all the pain is borne by someone else. Like ball bearings under the hooves of Police horses in Adelaide during the anti-Vietman period (that shows my age!).
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Follow Up By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:21

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:21
Gee Chris, you really are showing your age. Funny, but it was the attempts to turn the public against the Vietnam Moratoriums by throwing ball bearings etc under police horses that I was also thinking of when I wrote my piece. I decided it was too far back in time for anyone to remember. The "disinformation" tactic is still alive and well and Greens seem to be a real target.
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:38

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:38
Well, Mike Fewster, you must be almost as old as I am then. I have doubts that this Newcastle lot are a fifth column for the coal lobby, so it must be the further left, trying to ginder up the respectable greens - nothing changes
Chris (aka Water Stop 2 SDCC 2008)
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Follow Up By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:51

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:51
Hello Waterstop2. You sure have a lot of nom de plumes. No wonder you recognize ginger group tactics when you see them and don't get sucked in.
Will you be out in the Simpson again this year? We are working at Yulara in September and then will be crossing the Simpson, same time, same place. Teaming up with some chefs from Yulara this year.
Sorry, we seem to have wandered off the topic here.
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:00

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:00
Yes, we're off topic. email me at p147chris@bigpond.com

Chris
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Reply By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:19

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:19
What a bunch of tosses I would like nothing more than to catch a tree hugger messing with my stuff.

Cheers Scoof :-) .














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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:23

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:23
Well they certainly got off to a great start,they look the part.. FERAL.


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Reply By: Robin Miller - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:27

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:27
I might not agree with their aims or methods but at least a lot of those people are prepared to go out and fight for their cause.

Imagine where 4wding would be if the whole country was organized and supported along the lines of which 4wd victoria is at least trying to do.
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:48

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 18:48
The only believable reading matter in anything the News publishes are the Classified Advertisements.

I suggest that this story is a Copy and Paste by the journalist from their world wide sources as we DO NOT refer to vehicles as Gas Guzzlers

What a load of crap.

Best thing to do is use that paper for compost


Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:22

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:22
I'm a bit green, but see RED at this sort of attitude.

I'd almost vote green if I didn't suspect most to be richard craniums.

The stupid part to this attitude, is that all the damage done would have to be repaired. That will double the original energy output/ carbon footprint etc.

and of course the stupidest thing is that they will lose all support for any reasonable argument they may have had to start with.

I'm a tree-hugger who love to harvest the 50,000 trees I have planted. [many more will stay]
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:49

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:49
Rod
I wonder what they would do about a vehicle like this, It's not a 4x4.

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Reply By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 22:19

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 22:19
This morning in my local area (50km/h),I was following a 'Smart' car with greens stickers all over the back and I got the impression that the driver was deliberately blocking me. Even stopped dead a couple of times knowing I couldn't get past unless I drove over the top of her...and I WAS tempted...!!! I say her and that leads me to the next bit...I suspect that it was the Greens MP headlined in the story and I know she was not part of the splinter group. My wife is not one for conspiracy theories but she also agreed that the woman was trying to make a point. Bloody game because she was successful in getting me angry. She finally stopped one too many times with the pretence that she was letting somebody turn into a local shopping centre and I took my chance and went past. The people about to turn across me quickly stopped and then the little bugger tried to accelerate again. Lucky I was in a good mood...and in a bit of a hurry or I may have got myself into trouble....
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