The value of a GPS/Navman/Tomtom

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:50
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I reckon these things are a bargain.

I'm off to Sydney in the morning, have to go to somewhere that I have no clue about, but the Nav will get me there.

The alternative is buying a Sydney (Sydway) street directory for about $40, over and above spending $40 I would need for a Melway.

And then I would still have to read the bloody thing and work out where I was going. It's so much easier to have the liitle voice telling you "turn right in 150 metres" and the screen display to help.

Best $250 I have ever spent.

Jim.

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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:04

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:04
It'll be music to your ears when you hear "arriving at Kings Cross" lol


Have a safe trip mate !


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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 21:07

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 21:07
hahahahahaha

I spent the last week in Sydney and stayed a block from where the Mardi Gras Parade started.

I had our Tom Tom and it got me the hell out of Kings Cross pretty quickly.

Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:22

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:22
"I had our Tom Tom and it got me the hell out of Kings Cross pretty quickly. " - the next morning. Hah ha ha .
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:08

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:08
Bob,

It got me to the Airport on Thursday morning ;)



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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:33

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 20:33
Still check your maps before hand Jim to ensure the unit is in fact taking you the quickest way. From my experience when taking long trips, most navigators (even with latest mapping) will take you the long way 90% of the time. Sometimes it's only an extra 20 minutes or so but on a recent run to SA the units 1st suggestion was 1.5 hours longer the the route I took!
I've found greater accuracy if you break the trip down into smaller sections.
Cheers Craig..............
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:03

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:03
"most navigators (even with latest mapping) will take you the long way 90% of the time"

Hi Craig - what info have you gathered to substantiate the above comment? Personal experience i.e. have you actually used "most" navigators (good work) or is your comment based on research (comments from others)..or both?.

I have limited experience with “navigators” but note there are settings with respect to fastest, shortest, unsealed roads, toll roads etc that will determine auto route chosen. Any idea what settings were used in examples you have used for your conclusion? Always the same, different or no idea?

Not disagreeing with you, just wondering.Mine takes me the “long way” on occasions, I think – would have to do both routes as time estimation initially provided by my unit is always over actual time required.

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 17:30

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 17:30
Gady Greg. My personel use has been with a Road Angel, a Navman & 2 Tom Toms including a current release GO730. I live in a rural town & all these units I've opperated have struggled to choose the fastest route (1st time) when travelling long distances. For example a trip to Robe in SA initially suggests a route zig zagging accross central Vic & would take almost 10 hours. After suggesting an alternate route (travel via) it reduced the travel time by almost 1.5 hours. (Why didn't it think of it?) Now when I was about to return from Robe you would think if I typed in my home town it would come up with it's first suggestion but no, it came up with another route about half way between the 2? Then when almost back it asks me to exit the freeway (away from home) & go who knows where because by then I turned the thing off :-)
I found with these longer trips it better to break the route down into shorter sections then accuracy improved.
On local rural roads they are particually bad taking long routes to many destinations. I'd suggest this is a mapping issue common to almost all units & although it has improved with the latest map version, unless I ignore the navigator at some point (& let it choose an alternate route) it will not take me the fastest way 1st time around.
Recently I was stopped just out of Wangaratta by a couple from Sydney & heading down to Gippsland. I just calculated the route their navigator said to take verses the quickest & it had added 2.5 hours to the trip!!
So hense my advice. Yes they are a great tool, quite accurate for short trips & around the city but my experience in rural areas & over long distance suggests having a closer look at it's 1st suggestion.
Cheers Craig...............
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Reply By: Mick W - Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 23:48

Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 23:48
I agree Jim, I use one for work most days and it is a valuable tool, however some local knowledge is always handy as sometimes it will lead you up the garden path (literally!!)

I have a navman, and have discovered a crack (many available for many differing models now) that unlocks the device to reveal the windows operating system behind the device, thus allowing programs such as oziexplorer to be run aswell (yay!!) Nothing illegal as the windows ce OS is already there, just makes it available to the user. Still retains original mapping program. So far so good, have only unlocked mine so far, am still to load ozi but from all reports from others out there, works well.
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Follow Up By: ERIC DRUMMOND - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:23

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:23
Mick

Very interesting.what model NAVMAN & how did you discover the crack to allow you to use oziexplorer ect.

Thanks ERIC D
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:42

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:42
Get on the GPS australia forum and all will be revealed




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Follow Up By: turbopete - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:02

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:02
can u be more explicit please,I had a look at "australia" but could not c what u were refeering 2
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Follow Up By: Mick W - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:38

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:38
I think Graham meant this site: http://www.gpsaustralia.net/

Eric, I have the S50 model. Found the crack after reading about people doing this to the Mio branded GPS. THen from there just looked around for info relating to the Navmans. The site you may want to look at is http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock

Good luck. I will finish mine during the week once I purchase a larger SD card, if I remember I will post back with some follow up info

Mike
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:40

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:40
He means ..... LOOK HERE


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Reply By: Holden4th - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:30

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:30
Then again, it can take you through short cuts that you think are wrong. I was heading for Southport in Tassie and had the Tom Tom set on fastest route. It directed me to turn onto 'Scott's Rd' and having been that way before I thought 'no way!' but after meandering around the hills for 20 - 30 minutes I came across the other end of Scott's Rd. On my way back I decide to take it and knocked about 40% off the journey as well as avoiding a couple of slower areas. I followed it religiously after that.

It was also useful for avoiding toll roads. Heading towards Sydney it took me off the M5 at the Heathcote exit off ramp (labelled last exit before tolls) and then put me back on it as soon as we'd past the toll. I love them!
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Reply By: obee1212 - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:51

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 09:51
google maps is a good one off option. It will draw the route for you straight to the address and you just print off the bits you need. The navigators are better of course for this type of nav.

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Reply By: get outmore - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:26

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:26
playing with settings probabally helps

but i find it really usefull for going places I dont know and take alot of turns to memorize from the book.

However if i set it to go somewhere i know the way i find they take the direct route a bit much where i find in my lumbering deisal 80 with cranky gearbox and boat handling id rather go the longerway than all those corners.

i have it set for fastest route rather than shortest
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Reply By: Chawbie - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:26

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:26
Last year I used my Garmin to go from the Yarra Valley to the Dandenongs. it directed me to turn right off a main road into quite a narrow winding road up and down hills and soon turned into a dirt road through a forest. Don't know if it was shorter or not. We got there in the end but I was glad we didn't have the caravan in tow for that trip!!

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:41

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:41
Prob through the Beenak Forest.

That's the way I would've chosen.
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Follow Up By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 13:37

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 13:37
Through the Dandenongs they will tend to take you on the staightest line they can get, even if it means dirt roads all the way and forestry tracks if they think they are more right than you.

And has anyone else noticed that if you keep driving and ignore the spoken directions a number of time that the voice seems to sound more put out and upset with you after a while?
Or is it just me?
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Follow Up By: Chawbie - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 18:55

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 18:55
Brian, I'm positive that's the case - can detect the hint of exasperation in the voice, as if to say "....you dummy".

Sigmund I think from memory you are right. It was an interesting drive but on occasions I thought we were lost. The GPS navigation options could do with an additional setting for towing a van, I think.

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:54

Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:54
Change your type of vehicle to a bus and see what you get



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Follow Up By: Chawbie - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:41

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:41
Graham - have been out of touch with internet for a week or so and just saw your post. Looked in my Garmin but the options seem to be car, bike or pedestrian only. Am I missing something?

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 18:58

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 18:58
Do this On mine anyway which is a Nuvi 310

Turn it on Hit the spanner icon, hit navigation, hit vehicle it will then give you options of

Car/Motorcycle.

Pedestrian,

Bicycle,

Truck,

Bus..


Have fun
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Follow Up By: Chawbie - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:06

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:06
Nah, curses - mine is Nuvi 250, only the three options, in mine they are under "settings". Under "navigation" i have "avoidances" and I have "unpaved roads" ticked, and it still took me into the dirt. Happened again last week too in the Hunter Valley. Might just have to upgrade! Will show the boss this post.

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:25

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:25
Think it has been superceded but saw some in Dick Smith catalogue last week at over $250.
I got mine in a woolies promotion cost me $85 after discounts.

Have a look in Aldi and see if they have any left.The Tevion one wasnt too bad apparently.



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Follow Up By: Chawbie - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:58

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 20:58
Yes mine is now supeseded. Think I may have to persevere till next Christmas, then see if anyone else in the family needs mine. A mate has a Tevion and is happy with it. Hope they keep getting cheaper.

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 06:24

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 06:24
Choice mag has a comparo of car GPSs at the moment.

You can log on to the website and just buy the article.

All use one of two mapsets but their s/w can make more or less good use of it.
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