Ryco fuel filters

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Replacing the diesel fuel filter on my 1HZ engine, I've always used genuine filters but was shocked to be quoted $67 from Toyota so I bought a Ryco for $29. Looking at the two filters on the bench I noticed the Toyota one has the filtration paper across the full diameter of the filter inside, where as the Ryco one is hollow through the centre with the filter paper around the outer edge part of the case. I'm sure it's still a very efficient filter and Ryco have a very good reputation but was just wondering if anybody has had any trouble with them or what your thoughts are.
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Reply By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:08

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:08
$67 seems expensive for a filter but is and injector pump and injectors are worth a little more than the $38 you saved.

Only my opinion.
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:10

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:10
Try again.
$67 seems expensive for a filter but is an injector pump and injectors worth a little more than the $38 you saved.

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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:25

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:25
I've not used Ryco filters on anything since problems with a brand new vehicle in 1980 when a Ryco filter introduced small paper particles into the engine oil system and caused a loss of oil pressure to the overhead cams.
I've also noticed the lack of filter medium when I was offered Ryco elements to fit my CAV fuel filter. even though they were FREE I didn't take them. The genuine CAV filters are only 3 or 4 bucks each so I go genuine.
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Follow Up By: Splits - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:50

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:50
Peter

While working for a Toyota dealer in the early 1980s, we saw a few cases of paper fragments from non genuine filters blocking the oil jet to the timing chain on 18R engines. It was a very expensive repair even back then.

I have seen apprentices cut up non genuine filters on more than one occassion and compare their contents with genuine. That is why I will always use genuine no matter what they cost.

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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:00

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:00
Ha ha that's funny it was and 18R in one of the first 4WD Hiluxes, in cooktown it started making diesel rattling noises. I took it around to the Toyota agent and he told me to change the filter and the oil straight away otherwise it would go boom.
About a week later we came across another hilux up on the Cape that had gone boom from just that problem.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:29

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:29
Have a look here These are what I use in my 1 HDFTE

www.terraintamer.com.au

Are approx $18 each for 6 or more $22 ea singly




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Reply By: Member - Axle - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:34

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:34
Its usually a case of " You get what you pay for"


Have a look at fleet Guard!, Popular filter with heavy machinery.


Cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: Lotzi - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:26

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:26
G'Day Axle

Yep, I use either Fleet Guard or Donaldson, l lean toward Fleetgaurd. But then again I am a pain about oil changes.
My engines have always been clean. Used them for to many years.

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Follow Up By: Lotzi - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:28

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:28
Ok, just saw the fuel filter bit, Fleet Guard or Donaldson.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:25

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:25
Mine had a Ryco fuel filter when I bought it, so I took it off and cut it apart. "Looked" nowhere near as good as the genuine filter. I can't find a photo of the element in the Ryco, but below is the Toyota one. I've never paid more than $38 for a genuine fuel filter, but haven't bought one for about 2 years. Maybe I'm in for a shock! The price is negotiable in many Toyota spare parts depts.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:43

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:43
Hi Phil,
My Brother some time ago went to a Toyota dealer and on the spare parts counter was a flyer about genuine Toyota oil filters.. They showed a genuine and non genuine, they boasted that the Toyota unit had more than twice the filter area and superior filtration.. So i guess they did the comparison to justify the higher price.. So what you are saying is correct, something designed for the engine is more than likely better than something that is made to a price to get you away from buying the genuine part.. Michael
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:37

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:37
Jon,

I also became a little 'concerned' about the price of genuine fuel, oil and air filters, but having spoken to a few people, read bucket loads of threads on various forums, I decided to stick with genuine ones, which always seem to come up best when someone goes to the trouble of pulling the things to pieces.

One good piece of advice I got was to SHOP AROUND the dealers for better prices. As an example, a friend informed me that Ballarat Toyota were having a special on oil filters if you purchased a dozen (can't remember the actual price, but significantly cheaper). I then rang them to confirm their price on them, plus a few fuel filters and a couple of oil filters....they were HEAPS cheaper than my local dealer and would do an even better deal if I bought all of this stuff.

I then went into my local dealer spare parts place and gave them the prices I could get these parts for and they did not hesitate to match it.

I have also since been told that Lane Toyota in Melbourne are one of the biggest parts dealers in Aust and often do VERY good deals on parts....worth a ring also.

Like many, I most often just walked into my dealer and paid whatever the sales person quoted.....NOT ANY MORE>

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Reply By: qubert - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:52

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:52
dont use ryco . poorly made filter. use donaldson , better brand and only 15 clams.............
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:46

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Ryco was always Australian made, check the box now....CHINA !! Michael
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:18

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:18
Ill go againt the flow here.I use Ryco filters for all vehicles in our workshop here.I use them in our 1HZ, used them in all my other vehicles too.Never a drama.
Now, when we bought our cruiser, it had a full service history from Toyota(60000kms).While driving home I noticed alot of smoke and a surge.I booked it back in and they had the pump"looked " at.Still not happy but left Tassie for Kununurra so had to go.Once in Kununurra I booked it into Toyota there and was told the pump and injectors were stuffed and needed rebuilding.A specialist in Perth got the job.Cause of the stuffed pump and injectors was dirty fuel.Now it had genuine filters all it life but they still let crap through.So just because there genuine, they still carnt save the pump and injectors.
Ever since then Ive used Ryco filters and change oil and fuel filters every 5000kms
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:32

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:32
Yep, my 1990 75 Series has 1HZ has used Ryco filters from its 2nd service. Fuel, Air and Oil and at 305,000k's nothing has been touched. Injectors still original, Injector pump still original, everything still the exact same as it left the factory. Motor has never been touched, not even the valve clearances. And it has done more remote touring and filling from 44 gallon drums then you can imagine. Never a problem, just routine services and maintenance. Very hard to kill a 1HZ. Mates i have in the Mining game wont use anything else but Ryco for everything, filters, hoses you name it.

I even used Ryco filters on my SS Commodore, and it was fairly worked yet never a problem. Oil always clean, air inlet hoses always clean, and fuel always clean. I will never use anything other then Ryco. Absolutely nothing wrong with Ryco.
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:44

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 21:44
Hi Happytraveller,
Thinking outside the square, why not use both?
i was going to put on a glass type CAV filter in the fuel line just before the genuine filter, that way you can SEE the quality of the fuel and during filter changes, just replace the cheaper cav as it will get most of the crap before it get to the genuine filter and yet still have piece of mind that the genuine filter is their as a backup.

Shane.

PS I would not put glass fuel filter in PETROL engine bay
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 23:25

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 23:25
Shane ,
Why not ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 16:52

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 16:52
How ya Going Dave.
Why not for what??
I'm not sure what you are asking.
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:48

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:48
Hi ya Shane,
Just wondering why you wouldn't use a glass fuel filter with petrol engine, Early model Holdens had glass bowls on the fuel pumps with out to much trouble.
Cheers Dave... PS Great sunrise.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 15:04

Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 15:04
ONLY as a precaution, petrol can be nasty stuff when sparying around an engine bay especially now with most vehicles using a feul pump in the tank.
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:22

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:22
Just like most threads here the one in the link below is a bit longwinded in providing info .... but it helps in choosing fliter brands. The fact it is a thread from 2005 might be of interest to some.


Not that diesel fuel filters are an issue for me now ... I alwas had a CAV fitted as extra in the past.

Currently using Fleetguard for any other applications I can.


LINK ..... Filter types and origins

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Reply By: Harry - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:24

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:24
So guys, haven't you heard of Donaldson.
That's their game so they don't make crap.
A lot cheaper than genuine and never a problem in 12 years.
Find a Donaldson distributor and check them out.
Oil filters are double element just like genuine.
Buy bulk and save even more. Share with mates.
If you want Melb. distributor, reply and I will tell.
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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:39

Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 22:39
All,

Each to his/her own, I guess. I have had until recently two 3.0TD Prado's in the family (now one), but I have used nothing but genuine oil filters in either.

I just say to the Spare Parts person; "Hi, rang you guys earlier and you quoted me $35 for a oil filter for my Prado". Boy, you're cheaper than the other Toyota dealer who was going to slug me $45+, blah, blah, blah"

Suffice to say, dealer's price DO vary - why? I dont know. But at $35, I'll buy genuine and if something goes wrong with the oil system I'll be back there in a flash for an explanation!

Case in point, quotes for a genuine towbar (fitted) for Prado ranged from $500 to $650 - both from Toyota dealers in Adelaide.

The're not all created equal!

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 14:00

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 14:00
Just to reinforce what Matt says, many Toyota dealers run shops on EBay and do quantity discounts. Many will offer a discount just because you belong to a 4wd club or whatever.
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Reply By: troopyman - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 07:17

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 07:17
Changing oil at 5000k intervals means i cannot afford genuine . Fleetguard or donaldson oil filter + cav fuel filter and 10 ltrs of oil comes to $58 . Actually i might be a bit out because i change my fuel filter every 2500k but it only takes a couple of minutes qand its only 5 bucks . Its so easy with the cav .
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Reply By: Neil10 - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 14:54

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 14:54
We supply the Nippon Max equavilent which meets all the genuine specs and sell for the fuel filter for $15.Oil and Air filters also.
A new item in stock is the Mann Provent-a filter for crank case ventilation .
Neil Sydney Filter Services 9672-7008
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