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Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:44
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For many years I graded the track about twice a year between 1995 - 2001, I put the sign post at the nothern end in about 1998, There is a rock, put there by the Laverton Shire at Empress Springs, a ladder goes in to the cave, beware of snakes.
I have also graded the Great Central Road, Anne Beadell Hwy to the SA Border

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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:57

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:57
Rod

I am in awe of you blokes.

A freshly graded road. The traveller's dream.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:15

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:15
I enjoyed being out bush grading roads, you feel part of the bush, grading the Anne Beadel, was an experience that will be with me for many years, when you think we had all modern equipment, and the have old machinery, no air cons I take my had off to them,
Someday I'll go back there and enjoy it, always do
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:46

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:46
Rod

You didn't lose a jerrycan out there?

I found one under a bush slightly off the road on a rocky rise not too far from the Gunbarrel intersection with DCR.

There were no snakes in Empress Spring and no water either in 2006. Bugger of a climb out on a loose hanging ladder. :-)


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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:10

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:10
I found a jerry can on the AB in good nick as well. Of the track under a tree. The things you find answering the call of nature.

And no snakes or water in Empress Springs last July either.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:03

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:03
No fellows I didn't, but as you say you find all sorts of things people leave behind, as for water you have to crawl down the narrow end and dig to find it, as for the mulga trees with the names sorry I never saw then, but back towards the GCR (wont tell you where) you'll find a old dray in the scrub left over from the sandalwood cutter days
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Reply By: equinox - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:18

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:18
Rod,

Empress Spring is one of my favorite waterholes.

I not entirely convinced that it is not permanent though.

Both times I have been there I have forgotten to check the mulga poles within, which are supposed to have the initials of each of the four explorers inscribed (poor Warri misses out).

Here is an article from the Austalian from 1967 announcing its rediscovery (It might not show up that well):

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Next time I'm in the area I will look for "Mulundella" Rockhole which is supposed to be about 3 miles to the south west. I know of one person who has found it but I did not ask them where.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:59

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:59
We found it when we were exploring the area in 1996 looking for sandalwood cutters camps. See if I can find a GPS reading
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:51

Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:51
Hi Rod,
We are up that way in 4 months time and counting. If you are able to give gps reading for Sandalwood cutter camp and old wagon, that would be worth a million. We have a few other remote sites to try and locate as well.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 17:20

Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 17:20
Gaday,
The sandalwood cutters camps are on the northside and eastside of Breaden Bluff, just follow the track that goes around the base and you'll see them.
As for the wagon, well let me explain, in the late 80's we found a tree marked by Frank Hann at White Cliffs at Pine Tree Caves, We informed some people of this and people from SA came with chain saws and cut out the markings and took them back to SA, we made a vow then not to tell anyperson of other findings which we might find. Hanns Camp is located about 15kms east of Laverton, between Laverton and the telecom tower east of Laverton.
So I'm sorry but I would rather leave it where it is then to have people remove it, not saying that you would. I hope you understand. Another exanple was a Troopie travelling along GCR, we spotted a mile post which he took from Lake Throssels area, there are mile posts from White Cliffs to Warburton, we put out a message in a 4x4 mag and a few months later it turned up at the roadhouse on the GCR. If you take the track that follows the edge of Lake Throssells south of the Empress Springs turn off you will see some of these posts if they haven't been removed, there should be one at the roadhouse it self.
As for the rock hole Mulundella, just find the 2 rocks piles facing SW in a row and you will see a small ridge the roch hole is located in that area,
All my gps readings are in Manjimup WA in a box and I have the key here, I'm in Katherine NT barra fishing.
Hope this helps
Rod
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 17:23

Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 17:23
The rocks are at Empress Springs
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 21:35

Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 21:35
Hi Rod
Thanks for the Information. I will keep in contact.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 00:01

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 00:01
Thanks for that Rod,

I wonder who the people from SA were?

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 08:05

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 08:05
AS far as I can remember they were either relations, Friend s of Frank Hann or to do with the museum
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:29

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:29
Did you ever meet "Popeye" who graded the GCR ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod V (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:57

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 21:57
I only meet Popeye on the HF radio never in person, sounded like a great bloke to me
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:02

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 22:02
He and I were sitting the weather out one time and we had a good yarn. He was on the GCR and I was around 300km north. As you say, sounded like a great bloke on the radio. LOL
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