Universal lights for camping
Submitted: Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:14
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We are after a light/lamp to throw some light on food preparation area/tent etc Currently use head lamps/torches and a battery lantern. Don't want to carry anything too cumbersome. Like the look of the versa lite 12-240V hybrid - anyone used them? However, with fridge running off second battery in troopy not sure about the power drain?
Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:51
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:51
That type of light is one of the most effective units around Rossco , for lights which operate from 12v.
Last november I wrote report on Primus Nova battery lantern (on this site) which outputs 300 lumens. (still a picture in my members photos)
This is probably the most effective of the LED types and will serve you
well however to get enough good light for food preperation you need to use both such that the light comes from above the food.
(the primus has a base mounted hook for hanging upside down )
Recently Anaconda introduced a knockoff copy of the Primus for $99 retail instead of $60.
Go with the Versa lite - if cable and car connection is not an issue.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:54
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:54
Robin,
One of my daughters bought one of those Primus Novas a few months back - the light output is amazing, and she camped for two weeks around tasmania and its still on its first set of batteries.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:12
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:12
Good product Phil - glad she is happy with it.
Pity they didn't come with a charging arrangement - as alkaline D cells cost a few bucks.
I give
mine a few hours on a
home made charger I always carry in the car - really just a 100 ohm 5 watt resistor from cig lighter to plastic battery holders from jaycar.
Carry aaa aa c d size holders with common plug and often freshing up someone batteries.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 23:17
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 23:17
I don't like cost of the Dcells but I guess if you don't need to replace them often, its OK.
I'm a bit like you - have a bunch of things that run off rechargables, but I have a son who is into electric helicopters and R/C cars and he hands me down his old battery chargers. They are neat bits of gear - can program them to charge or discharge anything from 1-25 cells.
I remember his first R/C car had the 6 cell sub-C NiCads and we used a resistive wire lead to charge them. I'd sit there watching the DMM, and waiting for them to warm up to make sure they were fully charged and we didn't trash a pack.
But she bought the light herself on the recommendation of one of the staff at Snowys and he was spot-on - a really
well designed light.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:24
Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:24
Ok Phil - I think main reason I have a little charge system for alkalines is so I don't get caught short with 1/2 flat ones during those casual trips , always buy new ones for serious trips.
When in
Perth the other week I discovered a relative imports R/C Helo's and Jets and we had a play with various models - including a twin fan F18 about 5ft long - what powerful engines they have these days and yes some great charging systems and batteries .
I love the 14v 2ah li-ion i carry after it assisted me to start the car recently and it turns out that these planes use them so I might work on a deal to get some serious capacity with Li-ion .
After a reply by yourself some months ago I brought an Overlander main battery just to try out , even though my orbital is working fine. Not quite as gutsy as Orbital but it seems to be doing the job and has given me extra capacity for camping as
well.
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 16:15
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 16:15
Best you can do in my opinion is a 12v Versa lite twin tube 11 watt flouro twinned with a 17 AmpHour jumpstarter pack from Superthief Auto.
Should set you back about $150 total and you have a fantastic general light source to hang in a tree or put on a pole with the powerpack to keep it running for at least 12 hours between recharges. If you set them up nice and high you will be amazed at the light they throw out.
The powerpack will usually nicely do a 2-3 night weekend trip of 4-6 hours use each night and then stick it on the 240v when you get
home ready for next trip.
For longer trips it depends on your setup but they can be recharged while driving or of course you can use a generator. You can use them from the car battery when camped but you get limited by cord length. They do only use the 1 amp though (about a quarter of what most fridges us) so should not impact on your battery that much.
By the time you get to similar light outputs from LEDs you are up around 2 Amps compared with 1 Amp with the flouros.
I don't use anything else these days. The Gas lamp is long retired. I tried a couple of LED wands with the onboard battery but found them very directional in the light output as
well as quick to go flat.
Another advantage is that you can use the jumpstarter pack for jumpstarting if you get stuck (provided of course you haven't had the light running all night!).
Cheers
Muddy
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:39
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:39
I also recommend the Versalite fluro. (or the Piranha fluro which is the same.
Fluros attract insects which may be a problem around the food preparation area but you can buy a yellow filter for the Versalite which slides inside the perspex cover and eliminates insect attraction.
If you can source an LED lamp or wand, these are also good.
While not as
bright as the Versalite they do not attract insects.
Both styles are low current draw.
Bill.
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Reply By: Member - Pedro the One (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:59
Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:59
Hi Rossco ........
I done did my own thing :
Got an old desk lamp from the shed [or a 2nd hand shop/tip/mate/anywhere] (BC or ES is OK).
Cut off the 3pin plug and bung on a cigarette lighter plug (but alligator clips/ spade terminals will do.)
Best lamps are those with an INLINE switch in the cabling, but a SWITCHED SOCKET is just as good.
Buy a 12volt CFL lamp (matched to your socket type, of course!)from any reasonably large electrical supplier ( around $20 each) - BINGO, a great camp lamp .............
For a shade, if required, a one litre Goulburn Valley fruit jar (placcy!) with a hole cut in the lid, put the socket through as though it were a lampshade, screw the inner retaining ring back on and voila ..... a diffused light ............ hooked up to ANY 12v power source - simple, inexpensive and very effective. Hang or hook it to suit your needs,
When finished with, unscrew the socket from the green lid, shove the lot into the jar, screw the lid back on ... packed!!
I have three or four of these, great inside tents, too.....
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Reply By: Maîneÿ [wa] - Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 at 13:52
Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 at 13:52
I use a strap on 'head light' for
cooking, it leaves your hands free and the light is always where you are looking too.
Use a 12v light for area lighting which does not attract insects and is
bright with very low power drain. Image Could Not Be FoundMainey . . .
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