Hilux first gear popping out

Submitted: Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:24
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Has anyone had a problem with a Hilux gearbox with the first gear slipping/popping out?
What could be causing this?
Solutions?
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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 14:20

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 14:20
Because you drive like bloody Jack Brabham through the High Country ! lol
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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:07

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:07
I didn't say it was my car. Just because my car handles the rough country better than some others. Have to catch up Wayne. Are you coming to the Family Fun Day and having a go on the test track this Saturday?
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:32

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:32
Spoke to Reese about a week ago and he mention it...Could you please send me the details @ my gmail addy..


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Blaze (Berri) - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:38

Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:38
And like Sebastien Loeb in the Pyrenees also Wayne... LOL

Just joking Twinkles ;-) ;-)
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Reply By: disco driver - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 14:28

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 14:28
Hi Twinkles,
Probably need a bit more info on this................... like when and how it jumps out of mesh.
For a start. Try
Engine and gearbox mounts (damaged ones can create this problem)
Worn or broken selector forks, springs or detents.
Worn or damaged synchro cones
Wear in gearbox
Incorrect gear lube fluids
Endplay in gearbox shafts, worn thrust bearings or shims
And thats just a start.
You probably will have to drop the G/box out of the vehicle, take the top off the G/box and have a good look round inside it to find the fault.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:12

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 15:12
Thanks Disco. Usually when starting off, and coasting. Sometimes will pop out rather than just slip out. Haven't had it happen under load. Doesn't always do it. Only occassionally in first gear. Car done 120,000km.
Who would I get to look at this. If the G/B needs to be dropped out wouldn't it be worth just getting it reco'd.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 19:31

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 19:31
Twinkles,
Sounds like it might be something not right in the selectors.
It may only be a spring worth a dollar or two, but then it could be much more too.
If you have to take the box out take it to a gearbox specialist who is prepared to gaurantee his work or a Toyota Service centre (if their ads are to be believed about the 20000km warranty)

Other than that I can't advise as I'm not a toyota fan, let alone an expert (as my log-in should tell you).

Others on this and other forums should be able to point you in the right direction as far as good places to go

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 20:41

Sunday, Mar 22, 2009 at 20:41
Thanks Disco.
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Reply By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:49

Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:49
If the vehicle has had any body lift then the selector boot is usually too tight and will push the selctor out of gear. Some modification of the trans tunnel or selector lever might be in order if it has been lifted.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 15:28

Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 15:28
It has had a mild lift, about 40 to 50 mm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:00

Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:00
Well apart from checking all the valid possibilities like detents, synchros etc mantioned before...just do a quick look by removing the cover and checking the clearance of stick to metal around the opening.

Even if this looks ok, once the boot is on...the extra height and the increasing thickness of the gear lever 50mm higher up the length quite usually requires some work to keep them in gear.

Either a 50mm, extension beween the pivot and the the vibration dampner above the boot, or some gentle reworking of the profile of the stick itself.

Goodluck

Matt.
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