Eyre creek in Simpson

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:40
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Am looking at heading out through Birdsville and along the QAA line in mid May. Can anybody help with how long the QAA &/or The Warburton track will be Closed due to the Eyre creek flooding.
Did it a couple of years ago when the main track was closed but there was a diversion in that allowed you to get around the QAA. Was looking at the Warburton as a second way to get up to the rig road .
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:58

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:58
Old Johno [NSW]

Last week I posted re this subject.
I had just spoken to the ranger in Birdsville and he confirmed Eyre creek would not be open for at least four weeks.
He did however recommend I call him prior to my trip to check.
When I asked about the bypass he said "Eyre creek is 16kms wide and no the bypass would not help.
Given your travel date you maybe o/k.
I'm hoping to come back that way second week of May.
The problem now is the temp has dropped and the evaporation rate has fallen.

Regards and all the best with your travels.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:39

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:39
I love your sig picture Wim. :-)

I still haven't got around to making trophies out of those two bits of Grevillea, but hope to soon. BTW I loved the videos, I put them up on my youtube.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:41

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:41
Hey just re-read your post. Looks like we are going to be in the same area at the same time. Hook up around a camp fire somewhere?
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Follow Up By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:04

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:04
David.

I will make contact via HF once I am out that way.

Regards and have an uneventful season.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:24

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:24
Wim

Just this morning, I had one cancellation on our 4 Corners Tour, so unless I get some more takers before April 15, I won't be in the desert in May. Shame really as we were doing 4 corners and Lake Eyre. My next trip starts in Alice Springs on June 1. Hoping to get across the desert then from the west.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:42

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:42
David.

Is Poeppel your first corner.
If your Four Corners goes ahead, can you get to Poeppel and if so when would you plan on being there?
I will have to decide which direction from camp 16 on or about the 8th of May.
I am hoping for a slow trip down the Hay making Birdsville about the 13th.
I have a small amount of flexibility in my schedule.

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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:01

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:01
Hi Wim

The order was to be Haddon, Peoppel, Cameron, SG.
The plan was to be at Birdsville on the 14th heading for Peoppel on the 15th, but as I say, my latest advice is that Eyre creek may still be impassable even by the detour on the 15th of May.

In any case, we are hopeful of getting at least two more participants, but unless we do it is likely the 4 Corners trip won't go ahead, in which case I will be leaving Alice Springs on June 1 bound for Birdsville on June 8. There are a number of interested persons keen to see flooding and Lake Eyre, but as yet not enough firm commitments. I hope we get out there, as we will likely be very nearby you. Would be good to catch up even if via the HF.

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Follow Up By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:12

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:12
David.

I have decided to get to Alice from the South. I will go via Cameron & Muloorina and check out the lake on the way.

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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:07

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:07
I am sure we will get sufficient takers for the 4 corners trip to happen, given the interest in the desert in flood and Lake Eyre etc but Gee I just had a brilliant idea, though my boss may not agree. If the 4 Corners tour doesn't happen, I could meet you at Madigan's Camp 15 coming in from Batton Hill and I could go to Alice via the French Line. :-)

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Reply By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:37

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:37
I was told today not to expect to be able to cross Eyre Creek around May 16. I plan to be there then and have made alternate arrangements just in case.
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Reply By: RobAck - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 18:58

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 18:58
At this stage the DEH website and desert parks bulleti is saying that Dalhousie is the only entry and exit point and they expect it to stay that way until late 09. A hard call to make but it simply means they are going to get plenty of calls for updates until it does open. Given that the Warburton is also currently closed it will be an interesting Simpson season

We're currently looking at exiting via Hay River from Dalhouise which means more fuel but no real challenges

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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 19:53

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 19:53
Exiting via the Hay is all OK except for quite a bit extra fuel, extra cost for permits and 4 1/2 extra days, not viable for a commercial operation
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 21:12

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 21:12
Gday Rob,

Its a couple of years since you joined us on that Hay River trip - absolute magic with Lake Caroline full of water, shield shrimp breeding, camels galore, Lindsays bush tucker lunch with his family..............it was one of the best trips we've done. Have a good time out there!

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:02

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:02
Wim, don't worry about evaporation rates - yesterday we woke to hot blowy northerly - last three days temps have been 39, 40, 41 and today will not be an exception! Big puddles around the common are drying quickly.
On ABC this a.m. Works Director for the Shire has advised that all roads in the Shire are open - Birdsville to Bedourie is still via Lake Machattie because of water in the Cuttaburra and the roads damage from the flooding is expected to be around $17million in our Shire alone.
Good trips everyone - don't forget your fly veils.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:05

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:05
It is the big puddle centred about 20k west of Big Red that I am worried about :-)
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:10

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:10
Just a thought - to remind everyone that the Eyre Creek crossing on the QAA which enables people to get into the Simpson Desert is not within the Desert but is private property and a working organic cattle station - that goes for Big Red as well.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:59

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:59
I didn't know that rocks and sand were organic :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:05

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:05
Huh Willem- thought you must have had a NICE injection lately - but I was wrong! LOL
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:12

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:12
Many people think that the cattle out that way eat rocks, there seems to be not much else for them to eat at times. I've seen the organic beef signs on AD and figured it would be pretty good country for organic certification.

I think what Ruth may have been getting at is that the crossing and the surrounding area is on private property I reckon the owners of that property would be pretty peeved if you tried an un-authorised detour.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jaap C (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:25

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 13:25
Never seen an inorganic beast
Must take a better look in future
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 14:48

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 14:48
Good cattle seem to thrive on nothing, well at least for a while.
I stopped and took photos, two Hereford type X cows and their calves eating rocks in the Gibbers ,east of the Birdsville track , calves lying in the only shade, fat sassy 3yr old Mums getting food from the gibbers, drove on past a bit had a look, enough vegetation sticking up for a graze, they appeared to be thriving.
Later on heading South from the Daimatina Lakes Park saw a cloud of dust heading east, pulled up and watched as a mob of Steers ( Brahma X) crossed the road I would presume heading for water, they looked in good nick to me, picked up there attitude, they were going to cross before me, so let them go, I was only going to the next gate anyway.
Cattle in that country will now will be enjoying the floods, flies will be the main annoyance, food and water in abundance?.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:11

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:11
Herbaceous plants seem to be the key. Higher nutrition than grasses perhaps.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:47

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 18:47
Herbaceous plants eaten by herbivores who in turn are eaten by carnivores(us) with some mixed results. Maybe we should cut the middle man out and go grazing ourselves :-) I would lose a lot of weight fast!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 19:22

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 19:22
Goodness Me Willem
I never thought that you might be a herbivore( veggie ), I would have classed you in the omnivore category as myself.
I was impressed by those cows and calves looking good, grazing on the Gibbers, that is why I ticked down the track a bit, walked out and had a look, among those stones was a pick of feed herbaceous of course.
As mainly a carnivore If I was starving I would have chosen one of the milk fat veelers under the shade to satisfy my hunger.
I must admit there had been the odd shower before I looked there last year, a little more than the guys a bit further north had had.
Have a good one
Cheers
Russ
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