Cost of Toyota 70 series V8 Deisel Injectors

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:36
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Evening all, I have been doing some comparisons between the Nissan 4.2TD and the the Toyota V8 as I am going to purchase one or the other second hand. Spoke to a diesel place today and we got onto the subject of injectors or cost thereof. Nissan $90 each. Toyota $900 each or $7,200 for the set. They are sealed and so they must be interfaced with the ECU and only Toyota service centres have the $5,000 computer to do it. The Toyota guy (I spoke to them after as I could not believe the price) said that the mine site vehicles have their ECU's sent down when they need injectors and the ECU is put in a donor vehicle and then all matched up then taken out again and sent to the mine site for install.
My mechanical knowledge is average at best so how often would you need to do the injectors? 100,000km?

Regards

Mark
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Reply By: ross - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:47

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:47
Is that for a whole injector. Normally you only replace the nozzle,not the whole assembly.
Make sure you are pricing apples against apples.
I wouldnt trust Toyota,ask a diesel fuel injection mechanic.
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:58

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:58
The new CRD diesel injectors are a lot different to our old one ross
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:55

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 19:55
I suppose you would have to ask Toyota and if they said every 100K you would go and buy the Nissan wouldn't you.
My Isuzu MU which is indirect injection, mid 90s motor has done 250Ks and have not been touched jet and still only using 10l/100K
But the Toyota hopefully get 250Ks would be my guess,
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:27

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:27
My understanding is that the electronic common rail injectors are not serviceable at all, no nozzles or anything, replacement is the only way.
Don't know specifically about the Toyota V8 ones but most others can easily be damaged by crook fuel. Ask any Effie owner, they'll tell you about having to replace all 8 injectors after getting a tank of crook fuel. D4D Hilux's have had problems too, been brought up on here a few times, several grand for a new set.
Funnily enough toyota for one will not honour warranty even if the crap has got past the standard filter. Never mind that the filter wasn't good enough.
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:02

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:02
Call me a neanderthal but I could buy a complete new turnkey engine for less than the cost of the Toyota injectors and it would still be less when installed in the Humvee!
I've just got a new IP, injectors, gasket set, water pump, timing chain and a few other small items for less than $AU1k at my door here in Sydney so paying nearly that for one injector is just crazy.
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Reply By: Member - Marco T (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:01

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:01
mowing

As a comparison, the Navara D40 injectors CRD $6,500 set ( 4).
Heard this through my mechanic - he got a bad batch of fuel.

Go the Toyota V8.

Marco
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:18

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:18
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Follow Up By: mowing - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:23

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:23
Marco, The thing is that I am "old school" (my last 4WD was a 60 series 12ht motor). The less computers in a vehicle the better as far as I am concerned. Injectors that have to be programmed-spare me!

Mark

PS. I do love the sound of the V8!
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 23:50

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 23:50
Toyota VDJ78R Injector part number #23670 59015.

Maybe you need to phone Toyota and check the price?

Cheers

Richard
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Reply By: Turbo Lux - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:26

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:26
Mark

Sounds a little overpriced to be honest, for some advice on the cost of service and or repair have a chat to HDS in Brisbane, from memory they service vehicles for Toyota etc, they specialise in fuel injection.

http://www.highwaydiesel.com.au/about.htm

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Reply By: Turbo Lux - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:26

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:26
Mark

Sounds a little overpriced to be honest, for some advice on the cost of service and or repair have a chat to HDS in Brisbane, from memory they service vehicles for Toyota etc, they specialise in fuel injection.

http://www.highwaydiesel.com.au/about.htm

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Reply By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:03

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:03
This issue came up some time ago and again fairly recently. The price of the Diesel V8 injectors was supposedly $2000 according to those rumours. When I got my vehicle serviced I asked what the go was. The service manager confirmed your pricing of about $900 but said that they had only install a handfull of injectors in all diesels ( LC, prado, hilux etc) each year going through the joint and said it is a complete non issue. Go the V8, you won't regret it.
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Reply By: Ray - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:03

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:03
Sometimes I wonder if technology is going forward or backward with all these computers in vehicles. I do agree that pollution should be reduced. BUT now if they go wrong you need a computer to fix them. Diesels used to be simple. If they didn't go the only thing was that they were not getting fuel and easily fixed by in most cases bleeding the fuel system or cleaning or replacing the injectors. This does not include major break downs. Most could be fixed by the operator or your local mechanic who usually had three sizes of shifting spanner. I once had a Toyota 2H and because of replacement parts was fitted with a choke cable to stop the engine. Nowadays the manufacturers try to make the stopping and starting of diesel as similar to a petrol engine. They even call the switch an ignition switch. WHAT IGNITION.
Similar applies to petrol engines with all their computers. I do like the fuel injection system but the old carburettor systems were easily fixed if you got into trouble. There were no EGR valves or oxygen sensors and you usually made your own ignition leads. (Replacement lead for my 80ser. cost over $200.00)
I am 72 years of age so perhaps I am a bit old fashioned but when I open the bonnet of a vehicle and see all the stuff inside with no real room to move I cringed
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