Near disaster with GPS instructions

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:25
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Don't believe everything you talking satnav tells you :-)



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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:28

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:28
As one cannot legislate for idiots neither should they be allowed to drive BMW'S.

Any one who drives down a footpath because a GPS said so deserves time in the funny farm.

LOL
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Reply By: olddigger - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:53

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:53
It has long puzzled me that while it is illegal to use a mobile phone while driving (quite rightly), it is apparently OK to use a satnav, look at the screen, punch buttons and so forth.
Surely the distraction factor is just as high, or higher?
Doesn't make any sense.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:01

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:01
It's also legal for taxi drivers to type away on their data terminals, desperately trying to get the next job, while trying to drive at 80 km/hr !!
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:16

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:16
An analysis of 50 years of UK crash data - the stuff gathered at the site by authorities - showed that not paying attention or being distracted was the main cause in 32% of cases.

(Exceeding the speed limit = 5% btw).

The report was only released on an FOI request.
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Follow Up By: Bomber_WA - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:30

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:30
Possibly it has not been made illegal because the police use them also. Have you ever had a look inside a police car? They have that many gadgets in there - they wouldn't make something illegal that would disadvantage the police!!

Asian countries arn't the only corrupt ones....
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:02

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:02
In that case, I assume you're not aware that it's legal for Police to use a Mobile Phone while driving - apparently they've passed some special selection test to make sure their driving skills are not diminished in any way by using a Mobile while driving.

Just like it's ok to eat a banana; put on makeup; admonish screaming children in the backseat; reading a courier data terminal; programming an address into a GPS etc, because they don't attract an AUTOMATIC huge fine, like using a mobile phone does (even while stopped at the kerb with the engine running).
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 14:33

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 14:33
Why we need all the individual pieces of legislation to specify all the individual acts of stupidity adequately covered by that lovely 'catch all' "negligent driving", is beyond me.
Perhaps it has something to do with the onus of proof, but that could easily be included in the regulations instead of a needing specific Act of Parliament.
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Reply By: Member - Porl - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:33

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 22:33
There was a very funny review in the Financial Review weekend magazine by their toys team a year or so ago. They were testing out a satnav and said being weary of technology developed by the US military presumedly therefore designed with the intention of either killing people or assisting with the killing of people, were convinced their fears were well founded when directed to do a U turn on the Sydney Harbour bridge.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:27

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:27
Well its hardly the machines fault if they didnt follow the directions.

If so it would do that no matter where it was.

Being financial types and the state of the world at the moment perhaps it should have said " Turn left" halfway across the bridge

LOL.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:04

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:04
When printed maps first became popular, I bet a few journalists earned a few dollars writing about the yokel who drove down some goat track and got bogged - just because it was shown on the map.

. . . only the technology has changed - human nature remains the same.
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Reply By: D200Dug- Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:16

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:16
The only good thing I have heard about GPS units was from SES crews after cyclone larry in the north.

Most road signs had been blown away and outside crews had no local knowledge, in car GPS units let them find streets without any other directions.

Other than that I would not trust them.

PS I can probably say this now but we were using GPS units to help mapping surveys in the 1970s it was new and not common knowledge, it took one Huey/ Iroquois helicopter to carry the unit and operating crew. How times change !!!
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Reply By: bgreeni - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:18

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 00:18
Having driven around some of England's back "Roads" and lanes, I can almost understand someone thinking a footpath was a road
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Follow Up By: Tony - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:17

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:17
Too true. The main road through villages was for a horse and carriage.
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Follow Up By: steve21 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:56

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:56
too true, makes our pacific hwy seem like a goat track!
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:37

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:37
"too true, makes our pacific hwy seem like a goat track!"

It is, isn't it??
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Follow Up By: steve21 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 16:43

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 16:43
you got it!
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:12

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:12
There was a similar case in Victoria about a year ago. An Indian family were going from Bright to Cranbourne. They obviously had the GPS set for shortest route. They went up the Buckland valley road and the driver sent his wife for help after several km of tracks that the local police described as difficult for experienced 4wders. The car was stuck on a rock then they realised it may not be the right way. They had to get it towed back to the road. Doh.
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Reply By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:07

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:07
We've got eyes and I assume a brain, so just because we have an in car navigaton system, that doesn't mean we can stop using them (our eyes and brains).

Also I would assume that just as texting is dangerous while driving, more dangerous than talking on a mobile, then so to would be punching in addresses into an in car navigation system while on the move.

Toolman
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Reply By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:15

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:15
There is an old saying "the map is not the terrain"

I'd suggest it goes double for satnav, especially when used by people who have never even seen a map.
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:49

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:49
Very interesting as a planned trip to the old country later this year will see me relying very heavily on this technology. Simply having to drive on the wrong side and in countries where drivers are not as tolerant as aussie drivers I thought an in car navigator would be a valuable tool!

Had to make sure that the Citroen speaks English otherwise it could end up a comedy of errors.

Maybe I may also make the press in a similar fashion.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:13

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:13
Brings back some memories of our first trip to Europe in the late 70s.

Just used a compass and if entering a village/town headed west or north to the other required side of town, then cut cross country using lanes to get on the right road. People use to ask why we had a compass. If we were heading north for example, it would confirm we were on the right road.
Amazing the places you could squeeze a kombi in back streets. Saw a lot more that way too.

GPS would make it too easy. :o)
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:35

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:35
G'day John,

I'm OK with easy! Decided to go for a girlie auto as well to make sure that there will be no stuff up changing a manual with the incorrect hand!

Figuring that grey matter can remain focussed on driving right - I will keep saying that as I drive.

Still taking paper maps - old habits die hard.

Kind regards

Theo
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Follow Up By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:13

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:13
I used a Tom Tom in the UK a couple of years ago. It was a fantastic aid to our navigation. Instead of the co-pilot having their head down trying to follow maps we could look out and about as we travelled. If we got lost or missed a turn which does happen, we could always get to the destination eventually. I would not go without a street directory though as it is good to research your days journey before departure so that you have some idea of which way you are planning to go instead of ending up on a walking path. You could even use Google Maps to plan beforehand although that is not foolproof either.

Get an In car navigator, you won't regret it. And you almost certainly should be able to select English as an option.

I'm not plugging Tom Tom specifically by the way, its just the one I used there.

Toolman
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Follow Up By: takenbyaliens (QLD member) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:00

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:00
Yep have to agree. Bought the Western European maps a few years ago and like said above SWMBO/navigator was able to see more and peace reigned in the car since she did not get the map upside down! I sometimes deliberately chose routes that would take us off the main roads...yes the village streets were narrow and some of the back roads also, but we saw lots of things other than hedgerows!!!
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Reply By: Member - mike H (WA) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:07

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:07
Hi people,

Just a thought.

A satnav. of any description is an AID to navigation and that is all it is.

I am a pilot and I regularly operate navigation equipment that costs more than most vehicles and yes it can operate and even land the aircraft. We could depart an airport and set the automatic bits at 500ft and not touch anything (apart from gear and flap controls) until we are taxiing off the runway at the destination.

WHEN IT ALL WORKS !!!

I also teach people to fly and we constantly have to reinforce the fact that there is no substitute for properly used navigation skills with the map (or chart in aviation) a compass and a good watch.
And even these can fail or be inaccurate!!

I also have experienced several (one quite memorable) instances where a $50K Garmin GNSS system in a turboprop has been affected by mobile phones even on standby. What chances would you give a $300 Garmin Nuvi in a vehicle???

Happy navigating
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