Nissan MQ Patrol Shed LH front wheel

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:34
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Eldest son was driving along Reid Hwy 2 days ago, and saw a GQ patrol ute run off the road into the sand and the driver slump over the wheel.

Thinking he might need first aid or an ambulance maybe - he pulled over to assist - only to find an elderly couple from Geraldton in a heap of strife.

Their left hand front wheel had parted company with the vehicle and run off up the embankment into the scrub - not to be found. (Couple hundred meters west of the Alexander street intersection lights).

Worse - the bottom quarter of the steel brake rotor was worn completely away where it had skidded for 250 meters along the highway, before pulling off the road and burying itself into the sand.

Struggle as they may they couldn't get a jack under the vehicle to get it back up off the ground.

Son caled me to go get our trolley jack from bro in laws place and bring it around to help out!

When I got there - a kind tow truck operator with a tilt tray had also stopped and used his tilt tray to lift the front of the vehicle sufficient to get a spare onto the studs - which surprisingly were all still intact - just the wheel nuts missing!

(I've read of many cases of nissans shedding all their wheel studs).

It turns out they had had a flat tyre on their old sunraysia rims and wide tyres and decided to get all "new" tyres and rims from an add in the quokka.

The seller turned out to be a tyre dealership nearbye.

They swapped the 4 rims and tyres over for the buyer - putting the "new" ones on the vehicle and the 4 old ones in the rear tray!

When we got the "spare" back on the front wheel, we checked all the wheel nuts (we had had to rob the 4 nuts off the other 3 wheels to replace those lost) and found the RH front drivers wheel with all nuts loose and hanging on by 3 or 4 turns of thread at most!

Quite clearly - the tyre dealership,who sold them the rims and tyres had forgotten to tighten the wheel nuts on BOTH front wheels at all - they were only put on finger tight to get them started and never hit with the rattle gun to tighten them afterwards.

This accounts for how one front wheel fell off and the other was badly loose.

Damage to the Nissan, was one disc brake rotor destroyed, the steering rod bent a little, the U bolts securing the axel to the springs half worn thru etc.

One wonders who is then "responsible" for the damage to the vehicle, the missing wheel & tyre etc?

The fact it was a tyre dealership selling "near new" / second hand tyres and rims" in the Quokka magazine.... does that absolve them of any responsibility / liability, for subsequent damage to the vehicle, when the swap job wasn't performed properly?

Interesting incident - turns out the poor old guy was slumped over the wheel saying a prayer of thanksgiving he and his wife werent killed after losing a front steering wheel at 90kph!

It was amazing how much brake rotor was lost - worn away on the road. It will have to be replaced because if he applies the brakes when that part of the missing rotor is aligned with the disc pads they will likely fall clean out!

Guy did well to control it IMHO

Least it wasn't another case of the dreaded Nissans shedding wheel studs!

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Reply By: timglobal - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 23:01

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 23:01
Was the wheel recently replaced? Flat or otherwise?
It's a common (to every vehicle, not Nissans) mounting issue that alloys are not correctly torqued and work loose. Not the wheel, tyre, vehicle or fitter's, per se.
Usually only occurs at comparatively low speed when centifugal force allows them to escape after shaking the nuts off kms before.
If refitting an alloy, re-check nuts (on the wheel!) after 50-100 kms.
Can't believe a solution hasn't been found to this pan-marque issue.
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Follow Up By: Flywest - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 16:24

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 16:24
Yes all 4 wheels had been replaced only minutes before at a tyre store.

Not alloy rims - they were steel rims replaced with steel rims.

Problem was the tyre fitter who only hand tightened the nuts on the two front wheels.

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Reply By: timglobal - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 16:55

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 16:55
So liability would seem to rest with the tyre shop.
If the Nissan owners are comp insured, it's a job for insurance. If not, a job for small claims court or larger.
Shedding a tyre is not particular to any model of car, so Nissan comments are irrelevant at best.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 23:08

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 23:08
Maybe a low strength Loctite "studlock" could be the go!! Michael
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