How to fit turbotimer to GU04 Patrol?

Submitted: Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:04

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Member - Robert W (SA)

I want to fit a Silicon Chip adaptive turbo timer to an 04 GU. I selected the blue wire out of the ignition switch, but it only has 8 volts on it, so I would not want to put 12 volts on it from the timer. Another place would be the output of the ignition relay, but I don't know how to access the wire.

I would appreciate any help.

BTW I assembled it a couple of months ago, but when I went to install it yesterday I found I had lost the main PIC chip, and had to but a second kit.

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:30

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:30

Dont know about your one but I put a $59 one from Autobarn in my 2003 and it had 4 wires. One went to one side of ign one to the other . The other two we earthed as one was a handbrake warning wire.
Cant remember the wires colours but they are the thickest two and can be found by turning key on. Test and turn key off, one of them will have no voltage then.Some one will know the correct colours for sure.

Technically they are illegal in Qland as you are not allowed to leave a vehicle with the motor running in our Great State???????? LOL

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 19:50

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 19:50

Same in Victoria

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Reply By: Ozboc - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:42

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:42

why do you need one ? Unless you intend on driving your Patrol flat out fully loaded then need to suddenly stop and exit your car in a hurry - then its pointless

If it was an essential requirement don't you think the manufacturers would fit one ?

Boc

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:52

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 17:52

They dont fit them for the same reason Ford didnt fit the strengthening brackets in the rear of the PINTO

MONEY
MONEY
MONEY

Fortunately Ford payed out the millions in court cases as a result of rear end collisions
Shame Nissan dont do the same when their Grenades go off

Incidentally it would have cost Ford about $1 per car to fit them
A lot less than the millions they got sued for.

I had one in mine and have also got one in the cruiser.
Especially as the exhaust and turbo temp can get well over 500deg at times. Beats boiling the oil.

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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 23:55

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 23:55

Hi Graham

Today I watched a show on Austar on the making of BMW. Really interesting stuff. The aluminium engine is surrounded with magnesium casting to keep the weight down. The point that made me look up and listen is the aluminium is kept in a molten state at around 500C.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 09:04

Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 09:04

And your point is???????????

Was it a diesel or a petrol motor

Was it turbo or not.

There is a vast differences in temperatures between the different motors.

It seems to be generally accepted that a EGT sender mounted after the turbo will give temp readings some 200deg lower than one mounted pre turbo.(Mine is after)
After all it is the gas temp that is measured not the engine metal temp.
I have a digital temp gauge with the sender bolted to the head.
It generally reads in the high 70's or up to 83 when working hard.
When it gets up to that the EGT is up around the 400 mark.

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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:08

Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:08

I wasn't comparing motors at all.

My EGT is after turbo (diesel) and gets up to, and sometimes over, 500C. I was comparing that to the molten aluminium at 500C.

Thanks for your info on sender unit bolted to head - reassuring to know that my engine will not go into 'meltdown' mode.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 14:40

Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 14:40

Get one of the temp gauges here if u ask nicely he may do one for you.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 19:41

Friday, Mar 27, 2009 at 19:41

Insurance companies are complaining about the vehicles being stolen with turbo timers fitted.. Even cars that were deemed impossible to steal are now being hotwired through the Turbo timers, so the insurance companies are claiming.. It was in one of the Sydney sunday papers a few weeks ago.. Michael

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 14:26

Saturday, Mar 28, 2009 at 14:26

What about the ones with Steering locks and chip keys.

Or is this just the usual slow news week type of article by knowledge deficient journalists.

If they need the turbo timer to hot wire them why dont they just hotwire the two wires that the turbo timer keeps the ignition on till it shuts down.
After all it is really only an adjustable timer and a relay.
Seems weird to me.
Only thing I can see is that it exposes the two connecting wires to make it easier. Would think you would still need the key as above.

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