Telstra NextG & Optus YesG

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Is the Optus Yes G close to the same as Telstra Next G? I like the Optus cap plans better, but I'm going to Woolaning, NT in 3 months. My Optus plan runs out in June. Looking at the coverage maps they both miss out at Woolaning but appear to have coverage around Batchelor. Anyone in NT use Yes G?
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:09

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:09
Optus Has Next G ????? Optus has 3G, unless something has changed.. Telstra closed the CDMA so they coulds have exclusive coverage in remote areas with thier Next G ststem, How they got away with that i will never understand, being in a so called " free market". Is there something i dont know?? Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:10

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:10
Typos!! sorry...
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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:13

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:13
I saw on the Optus site that they have something called YesG now with 96.something coverage. Telstra NextG has 98.something.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:05

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:05
Don't let the numbers fool you.
Those percentages covered so loved by Telstra and all the other telco's relates to population coverage and has absolutely NO reference to area coverage
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As the population is centred around the lower (southern) edge of the continent and only a small percentage live anywhere else, their quoted figures are accurate and cannot be challenged.

However there is nowhere anything like 95% of the Australian area covered by any of the telco's.

The best available is definitely Telstra but even they have big holes in their mobile phone coverage.

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:18

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:18
Twinkles, that is the percentage of the population covered. 96% means larger small towns - well you know, like Foster, for closer settled areas. If you want coverage, I am afraid it is Telstra you have to pay for.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:48

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:48
Telstra closed the CDMA network to replace it with a single network that could be used to provide Voice and Broadband Mobile Data.

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:13

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:13
I don't believe YesG (2100/900) is the same as NextG (2100/850).

The 2100 frequency range is 3G and is used by both carriers in the built-up city areas.

850 Mhz is Telstra's NextG networks for Country wide use.
900 Mhz is Optus's Country wide network but this is where I think it is different to Telstra.

I believe Optus (and other carriers) may eventually be allowed to use Telstra's Country Network but this hasn't happened yet to my knowledge.

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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:18

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:18
Thanks Bill. Do you know what the difference in Mhz does? 850 seems pretty close to 900. Is it related to equipment out there servicing it?
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:22

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:22
If you want close to 850 mhz, you go for 850 mhz. 900 doesn't come close. It is the frequency the systems tune to. Its a bit like saying if you want to listen to the emergency on Victorian ABC 774, you listen on 774, not 783, even though it is the next station position up.
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Follow Up By: Stu & "Bob" - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:18

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:18
I have a Telstra Next G phone (nokia 6120 or something like that) and it works quite well with a Optus prepaid simcard. This was the only option for a while, as Telstra had no coverage in this particular area (250 odd Kms north of Mt. Isa)



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27
Yes it will but not on the equiv NEXTG 850 frequency cos OPtus's YESG is 900.
It will pick up the 1800/2100 3 g only




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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:00

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:00
Telstra has spent lots of money setting up basestations on 850 all through the country - that's why they have the best coverage way ahead of any competitor.

As a Telstra shareholder, I don't see why competitors should get access to a network funded by Telstra.

People seem to forget that the previous Government decided that Telstra should NOT be service provider for all.
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Reply By: Member - Jan B (VIC) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:18

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:18
Hi Guys,
Me personaley prefere Telstra as optus buys space off there towers
and they will all come to the same level evetually the cost may be cheaper at optus BUT be wary of distance coverage, you can go to the telstra web page and find coverage details.
Youa also have to remember Hutchinsions communications which controils a lot of stuff there the poms British telecom as well
confused well i was when i was teachinh Telstra cooms boys there rigging stuff
.Preference Telstra they have all the towersa in place

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:44

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 20:44
Hi Twinkles,
Optus would well and truly love to have NextG. It was made very clear from the outset, that because Telstra spent multi millions of dollars on developing the new NextG network, they were not going to let any of their competition to be able to use it. I know that there was a time limit that the Federal Government gave Telstra before they would have to share it with other service providers, from memory it will be a few good years yet.

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:52

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:52
An Optus Next G equiv phone will not work on Telstras Next G network It will only work on the 2100mhz 3G network if it is a multiband phone.

Telstra Next G is 850mhz

Optus, Virgin, Vodafone use 900mhz

Think of the bands like radio stations You have to tune to the correct frequency to get the one you want. Same with cell fones They only work on their own frequency(S).

Look at Optus's coverage map I dont think they have any in NT or didnt when I rang them but said they may later in the year.

I was told that 98% of the population live in less than 10% of the land area of the country.


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Follow Up By: Twinkles - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:02

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 22:02
In had a look at the maps. YesG with optus has some in NT
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Follow Up By: chisel - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:53

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:53
"Optus, Virgin, Vodafone use 900mhz "
I don't think the 900MHz network is available to Virgin and Vodafone, is it?
They all share the 2100MHz network.
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Reply By: JR - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:59

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:59
I think 900mhz is same as GSM from Telstra so coverage is much less I would expect than Next G - OK close to towns and towers
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:29

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:29
Its not.

Read the posts above





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Reply By: Member - Mal and Di (SA) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:17

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:17
Lesson one. Don't believe it will work cos the "map" says so.
I wanted to sign up for a Optus wireless plan for broadband.
Checked the map and saw a 3g coverage in my suburb (beach side Adelaide). Rang the Optus boys and they said we will do a check first, Whats the address?
Sorry sir we can't guarantee coverage there. What about a specific address in Palmerston. Sorry Sir , same answer! Tried Alice Springs and gave up after that.
So the coverage maps are not reliable. Talk to the horses mouth direct and hope they give you a truthful answer. I was not happy but was impressed that they told me first. Will have to rely on Mc Donalds on the next trip!!
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:22

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:22
My Nokia next g phone works quite well with a Optus 3G prepaid simcard.



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Follow Up By: Krakka - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:09

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:09
Would have thought that if the phone is not "locked" to a carrier it wouldn't matter what sim card you put in the phone.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33
Yes it will but only on 3g NEVER on YES G

In saying that some unlocked multiband phones will work but most Australian phones sold by the big players are locked to them for obvious reasons.

IF in doubt go to the manufacturers website and check the model to see what frequencies it works on prferably before you buy.




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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:53

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:53
NextG phones will work on 850,900 and 2100 networks.

That doesn't mean YesG phones will work on NextG - 850 only.

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Follow Up By: chisel - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:55

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:55
When you put your optus SIM in your nextg phone you are using Optus' 2100MHz network.
I don't know if there are any phones that support both 850MHz (NextG) and Optus' 900Mhz "country" frequency.

Optus' 900MHz coverage is a LOT smaller than Telstra's 850MHz coverage.

The choice of phones on 850MHz (nextg) is a lot better than 900MHz.
iPhones (if that's your thing) work on NextG (850)
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Reply By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:49

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:49
It's worth nonetheless keeping an eye out on Optus wireless broadband. They claim to be building new towers at a rate of knots.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 18:16

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 18:16
Phooey, just read that they charge in ten meg increments.

Bl**dy incredible.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:12

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:12
My GSM phone is through an Optus agent.
Did a trip to NT last year from Brisbane, and need to keep in touch with the office, so did some research.
Optus 3G only has full 3G coverage within approx 30k of a capital city and a couple of other spots (900mhz) and drops back to GSM for the rest of the 95% (2100mhz).
We bought a Next G prepaid to take with us to the north of the NT last year.

We had reliable GSM coverage (hand held in car) through Optus in a couple of towns between Brisbane and Mt Isa, Mt Isa, next was Katherine, Jabaru and Darwin as main spots. A little coverage around some places like Mataranka.
The Next G hand held had most reasonable size towns between Brisy and Darwin, and more on the highway, also places like Booroola.

Quick summary, Next G in outback Qld and the NT has about twice the coverage of Optus 3G/GSM.
(But we still dropped out of contact for two weeks on the Savannah way with Next G.)
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Reply By: Tadooch - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:09

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:09
You can get antennas with bigpond that boost the signal & speed so more coverage.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:46

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:46
Have a look at their coverage maps for the Northern Territory


https://ww2.optus.com.au/portal/site/aboutoptus/menuitem.cfa0247099a6f722d0b61a108c8ac7a0/?vgnextoid=3deb10009d82e110VgnVCM10000002cd780aRCRD
- Optus has basestations in Darwin, Jabiru, Tennant Ck, Alice Springs and Yulara - and no plans to add more in the near future


http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/state.html
- Telstra has basestations in more than twenty towns in the NT


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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:03

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:03
YesG has coverage from Townsville to Charters Towers.

NextG has almost continuous coverage from Townsville to the NT border, through MtIsa.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 18:23

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 18:23
Not sure if I've got this right Mike but Optus do show where they're planning to extend their YesG network (which carries b/band wireless no?).

For NSW eg. see http://www.optus.com.au/portal/site/aboutoptus/menuitem.cfa0247099a6f722d0b61a108c8ac7a0/?vgnextoid=f42b10009d82e110VgnVCM10000002cd780aRCRD
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