ExplorOz Sand Flags Some advice please

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When I last visited the deserts I swore when I return I would definitely fly a Sand Flag
Browsed the Internet and this forum for options.
Opened the EzplorOZ news letter today and found iI can get one from the "Shop" Great.
I need some advice please.
I will be mounting it on an ARB winch bar on my Troopy.
Which fitting do I get. the clamp model is for vertical tube, easy to fit, but on an ARB bar, not many vertical tubes.
Bolt on version appears better, but will need to get a couple of holes drilled, that would not be a problem at home but I don't carry that gear in Aus.
It is really a matter of which type fits best.
If I have to, I am sure I could get a couple of holes and bolts in a country garage somewhere.
Your advice would be appreciated
Cheers
Russ.
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:14

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:14
Russ,

I bought one yesterday and got the bolt on version. It is slightly cheaper than I have seen elsewhere as well, considering the price includes delivery.

If you attend the St George Gathering I'll arrange to fit it for you if you want.

The reason I went for the Bolt on version is SWMBO would want it somewhere other than the 4 mounting points with the clamp on version LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:29

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:29
Hi Kev
Unfortunately I will back home by the time of the St George gathering, planning to make Wiluna next year though.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 21:06

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 21:06
What are your plans for this year Russ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 09:06

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 09:06
I arrive Brisbane towards the end of May.
Head west as fast as possible, I will start to relax when I get past Toowoomba
I have 3 months before I head back home.
We have family in ACT, working for a Govt Dept.., planning to be there in the July school holidays.
Thoughts are of a detour, Simpson, (floods permitting) TanamiWyndham (namesake just up the river from the farm)
Gibb river road, and if all goes well hope to catch up with Kiwi Kia Marble Bar / Newman somewhere and make our way East on one road / track or another.
Bit of a loose end after the school holidays, head in a northerly direction avoiding back end of B trains, route yet to be decided,
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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:36

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:36
Russ,

I would recommend the ARB flag pole, it is a bolt on as well but it comes with a quick release mechanism, literally seconds to put on and off. If your ARB bar is like mine, you will have the spotties mounting points under the middle hoop, but on the top hoop you will have two more mounting points which sit at bonnet level. I have my 2-way mounted on the passenger side one and the quick release "stub" (for want of a better word) on the drivers side, then all you do is click it on when you need it. Great if going through shrub etc as easy to take on and off.


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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 15:26

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 15:26
Broe,

The bolt on version is a quick release style, it screws onto the threaded bolt which you bolt where you want it on the bull bar.

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 15:46

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 15:46
Russ,

Go the bolt on, much better solution I believe - it is quick to remove. The best thing about this solution over all others (including the ARB) is the strength & height of the pole plus it is very simple to drop down as it is telescopic. In all our research and investigations there is no better solution available. Sure it seems to cost a bit but I can assure you that it is the best option on the market and includes the brackets and freight (due to the size and weight the freight is costly - hence we added it to the base price).

Not just a sales speil - if you do not like it send it back. I know I will not get any back.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:16

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:16
David do you have a photo available showing the retaining strap system for the bolt on model?

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:34

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:34
John,

It looks like this


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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:44

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:44
Thanks Kev but thats the Clamp On Model. Clamp On Model

I just wanted to see the top strap that was used for the Bolt On Model. Bolt On Model

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:47

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:47
I think it just screws onto the piece that gets permanently fixed to the mounting point, and doesn't have a top restraining strap as such. I can let you know 1st hand when mine arrives (next week hopefully)

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:53

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:53
........who's Kec?
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:56

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 16:56
From the above link.

"A mounting bracket which bolts directly to the flat section of your bullbar. When required the Safety Flag Pole is simply screwed onto this mounting via the threaded base. A retaining strap then supports the Safety Flag Pole against the top tube of the bullbar"

I'm guessing its just a webbing strap that wraps around the top bar to support the pole??
The Bolt on Base alone won't support it.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Adele - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:33

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:33
Hi John,

I think this might be the picture you are after. It's great to see that the people on the forum are discussing this product, as we believe that everyone who orders the kit will be impressed when they receive it!



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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:23

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:23
Thats it Adele.

Does the strapping come with the kit??

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:28

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:28
John,

Yes it does - you get everything you need it is mentioned in the description as below:

"A mounting bracket which bolts directly to the flat section of your bullbar. When required the Safety Flag Pole is simply screwed onto this mounting via the threaded base. A retaining strap then supports the Safety Flag Pole against the top tube of the bullbar"

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:28

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 18:28
Mark,

Kec is the bloke who got home late from work ;)

John,

I now know what you are on about hahaha

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 22:56

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 22:56
The strapping looks a bit amateurish, wonder why they didn't use 2 U-bolts with a backing plate?
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 23:15

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 23:15
Shaker I think its to enable ease of installation and removal without tools.

Nothing stopping you doing the U Bolt thing I guess??

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 23:53

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Sorry, I thought that was a deep socket!
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 09:25

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 09:25
Thanks Adele
Just the image I needed.
Is the base tube stainless, it appears to be metal at least.
I would think of fitting it slightly further back so as it has some protection from the top bar, I presume that would work.
Can you email me on my members. Problem placing order.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:40

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:40
Russ,

I have just fixed the shop error that was causing a problem in the selection of the delivery country. This also highlighted to me that we had not thought about shipping this product O/S. The system will currently not allow this item to be sent O/S however if you have a local address it can be sent out no problems. If you need NZ shipping please drop Adele and email direct on adele@exploroz.com and she will find out firstly if it is possible and the shipping cost.

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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 06:40

Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 06:40
Not a problem.
I would get the sandflag sent to a Brisbane address.
I was trying to order a book when I had problems with the drop down menu.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:43

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:43
Russ,

I did fix the drop down list issue last Friday night - can you try again for me - you may need to click and wait for as sec and click again - Let me know if it does not work for you.
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Reply By: Member - Josh J (NT) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:03

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:03
Lads,

We have the flags at the mine that i work at, the quick release version that we have use a similar type mount to a quick release air hose fitting (Heavier duty of course), this bolts straight onto a bull bar mount, the flag end then has a "Female" type quick release fitting that snaps onto the male mount, takes about 1 second to put it on/take it off, as most mine vehicles, our vehicles get a flogging and they hold up well.

Ours are from Repco, are two metres long and are $66, probabley cheaper for anyone else for as soon as you mention the word mine to suppliers the price sky rockets.

Catch ya

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Reply By: Member - Campergirl (NSW) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:51

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 17:51
Guys

Talking about sand flags, would i need one to go from Cameron Corner down the Strezlecki and up Oonadatta Tracks?

I don't want to get one if I don't need it just yet.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 20:07

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 20:07
Campergirl,

No not really for the tracks you mention. Wait till you go the Simpson or other similar desert/sand dune types of journeys.

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Follow Up By: Member - Campergirl (NSW) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 21:04

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 21:04
Thanks David

Appreciate it.

Take care

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Reply By: Member - Paul W- Esq (VIC) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:04

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:04
I have a flag and 2 fibreglass rods(totalling 1.8m in length) that i bought fron a bike shop for $10, i cable tie it to the roof rack or the UHF antenna (1,8m long), which ever suits me at the time.
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Reply By: Member - Ros-Ross H (NSW) - Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:47

Friday, Apr 03, 2009 at 19:47
Thanks Russ for asking question as the answers given solved ours too. Only today ordered one ourselves! Also have a troopy and went for the bolt on version.
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